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The short clip showing Ezra Miller, why didn't they just sign Gustin. He has owned the role in an authentic sense since he is Barry Allen and the Flash.

I don't know why they are even bothering. We've had a bunch of Flash seasons. And what do we get? Probably Zoom as a bad guy.

The Flash movie will introduce DCEU's multverse. It'll have two Batmans in it. Maybe it'll have two Flashes.

Screenrant | Every Superhero In The Flash Movie (So Far)

Don't overlook this movie has Ron Livingston.

I'm tired of "multiverse". Its just cheap story telling. There are a bizillion stories one can draw from comics.

Well, that this new Barry Allen is from Flash Point, makes it more tolerable,maybe.

Mr. X wrote: ↑

2 years ago

I'm tired of "multiverse". Its just cheap story telling. There are a bizillion stories one can draw from comics.

Yeah. And a lot of them involve a multiverse. You ever hear of an obscure little comic called "Crisis on Infinite Earths"?

Damselbinder wrote: ↑

2 years ago

Mr. X wrote: ↑

2 years ago

I'm tired of "multiverse". Its just cheap story telling. There are a bizillion stories one can draw from comics.

Yeah. And a lot of them involve a multiverse. You ever hear of an obscure little comic called "Crisis on Infinite Earths"?

The merger of Universes in CoIE(fuck those other "crises") ruined the DCU. It took numerous mythoi of the DCU and tried to make an ugly hodge-podge of a world.

Prime example-Power Girl. She had to endure at least THREE different new origins after the Crisis until they decided after one "crisis" to just say she was the Kara Zor-El of Earth-2, and by cosmic fluke was just one of four survivors of that world(with the Earth-2 Superman and Lois Lane, and Psycho Pirate.)

I wanted my JSA/Infinity Inc. Universe(Earth-2).
I wanted my world with the Shazam Family(Earth-S).
How about a world with the Crime Syndicate(Earth-3)?
Explore a world where Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters fight to overcome a Nazi victory in WW 2(Earth-X)?
I like thinking I existed in Earth-Prime!

All these worlds of imagination thrown away because DC leadership was getting lazy. Whine they couldn't keep shit straight? Hire someone that knew the history and gave a fuck like Julius Schwartz! God I miss that guy! He was such a cool dude that he actually made a couple appearances as himself in the comics(the aforementioned Earth-Prime appeared in a couple comics!), helping Superman of Earth-1.

My 2 cents.

Damselbinder wrote: ↑

2 years ago

Mr. X wrote: ↑

2 years ago

I'm tired of "multiverse". Its just cheap story telling. There are a bizillion stories one can draw from comics.

Yeah. And a lot of them involve a multiverse. You ever hear of an obscure little comic called "Crisis on Infinite Earths"?

Yes I've heard of one shot stories based on the idea, not the idea used as the main theme for everything. Not everything has to be time travel and nanites either.

Plus the multi verse means character peril is meaningless as even if they die they still live and often it seems replace the dead iteration of the character in the current universe anyway.
Soooo what's the point as characters aren't really ever killed off and can always be brought back.

tallyho wrote: ↑

2 years ago

Plus the multi verse means character peril is meaningless as even if they die they still live and often it seems replace the dead iteration of the character in the current universe anyway.
Soooo what's the point as characters aren't really ever killed off and can always be brought back.

Exactly. Multiverse gives no meaning to anything. One of the justice league cartoons touched on this with Owlman dealing with Nihilism and the view nothing he did mattered. The only act that mattered was destroying the multiverse.

There are so many great comic stories out there. They don't need to have some multiverse.

I think, in part, this whole multiverse theme aligns with the diversity theme. Basically we can have that trans/eskimo Superman someone always wanted.

Mr. X wrote: ↑

2 years ago

Damselbinder wrote: ↑

2 years ago

Mr. X wrote: ↑

2 years ago

I'm tired of "multiverse". Its just cheap story telling. There are a bizillion stories one can draw from comics.

Yeah. And a lot of them involve a multiverse. You ever hear of an obscure little comic called "Crisis on Infinite Earths"?

Yes I've heard of one shot stories based on the idea, not the idea used as the main theme for everything. Not everything has to be time travel and nanites either.

Crisis on Infinite Earths was not just a "one shot story". It was the biggest 'event comic' DC have ever done.

Damselbinder wrote: ↑

2 years ago

Crisis on Infinite Earths was not just a "one shot story". It was the biggest 'event comic' DC have ever done.

It was ONE story... a series yes... but one story. And it KILLED the multiverse... which just came back. Yeah so DC had an event that lasted a few comics.


But multiverse is still boring writing IMHO. It destroys any meaning. With marvel it means end game and Infinity war have no meaning.

Mr. X wrote: ↑

2 years ago

Damselbinder wrote: ↑

2 years ago

Crisis on Infinite Earths was not just a "one shot story". It was the biggest 'event comic' DC have ever done.

It was ONE story... a series yes... but one story. And it KILLED the multiverse... which just came back. Yeah so DC had an event that lasted a few comics.


But multiverse is still boring writing IMHO. It destroys any meaning. With marvel it means end game and Infinity war have no meaning.

It depends how you do it. If you make it feel like yes, at any moment we could just have another Iron Man step in, then you're right. But you can make a multiverse feel not all that different from like... a sci-fi setting with hundreds of inhabited worlds. Just 'cause there's heptillions of people doesn't mean the death of one is meaningless.

(Also the multiverse did not 'just' come back. It came back in Infinite Crisis, a story now 16 years old).

Mr. X wrote: ↑

2 years ago

But multiverse is still boring writing IMHO. It destroys any meaning. With marvel it means end game and Infinity war have no meaning.

As Loki saw, it meant the Infinity Stones are now used as paper weights instead of giving god-like powers.

Damselbinder wrote: ↑

2 years ago

It depends how you do it.

Yes and how DC and marvel are doing it destroys meaning. They already did this in Loki when the infinity stones were reduced to paper weights.

Those infinity stones are only paper weights when they're taken away from their own specific universe and brought to another universe, or outside of time and space where the TVA is.

To each their own. MCU is hitting it out of the park for me. DCEU not so much, but I have liked some of their movies.

Crossing my fingers that Margot Robbie gets to play a blonde, miniskirt wearing Supergirl from some universe in a DCEU movie. If multiverse storyline can bring back Keaton as Batman, anything's possible.

(not my art...)

Margot Robbie did her male-gaze time. As good as her genes appear to be, you'll probably have to wait until she's approaching 50 and wants to show she's still got it to see her be that overt again.

Frequent reboots and retconning crossovers wrecked comic books for me.

I'm hopeful the DCEU Flashpoint will be used to bring things together, not just give themselves an excuse to reboot Batman and Superman endlessly.

I'm just burned out on Superhero films in general now, only thing I'm remotely interested in is possibly Eternals because it feels like something different. As for DC, who cares...they'll just reboot their entire continuity in another 2-3 years anyways.