The Mandalorian (season 2 - spoilers)

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I can say, I'm a little disappointed that the Boba Fett show isn't Mandalorian Season 3.

I don't know WHY exactly just yet since this is a weird bias I don't carry over to Marvel shows, but too many Star Wars shows running at once bugs me... and having more than one of them be focused around Mandalorians bugs me twice as hard.
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yeah Boba Fett series would be nice, or his son.
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Femina wrote:
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I can say, I'm a little disappointed that the Boba Fett show isn't Mandalorian Season 3.

I don't know WHY exactly just yet since this is a weird bias I don't carry over to Marvel shows, but too many Star Wars shows running at once bugs me... and having more than one of them be focused around Mandalorians bugs me twice as hard.
I got the impression (although maybe I'm wrong) that most of the new series are going to be one-offs and series getting multiple seasons like Mando has will be the oddity. If all the ones set in and around the same time as Mandalorian are all leading up to some big bad/main event like Thrawn that would be pretty cool and make it all feel less like a narrative scattershot.
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Philo Hunter wrote:
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Femina wrote:
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I can say, I'm a little disappointed that the Boba Fett show isn't Mandalorian Season 3.

I don't know WHY exactly just yet since this is a weird bias I don't carry over to Marvel shows, but too many Star Wars shows running at once bugs me... and having more than one of them be focused around Mandalorians bugs me twice as hard.
I got the impression (although maybe I'm wrong) that most of the new series are going to be one-offs and series getting multiple seasons like Mando has will be the oddity. If all the ones set in and around the same time as Mandalorian are all leading up to some big bad/main event like Thrawn that would be pretty cool and make it all feel less like a narrative scattershot.
I guess? I don't get the impression that the 'New Republic' show is gonna be a one off. Ahsoka 'may' be. Obi-Wan is, we don't really know what the deal is with Andor (a whole series dedicated to a cardboard cutout of a character from the Rogue One movie staring a bunch of cardboard cutouts who we already know die) Acolyte is too far out to know anything at all about it. Then we got the Boba Fett news post credits so we honestly have no way of knowing what the plan is there either...

I don't know why I don't like so many series being developed concurrently, THAT much I at least attribute to my own sense of bias and simply refuse to actively hold against the future of the series... but we've got 'the Mandalorian' and then we've got 'Boba Fett' and their two distinctly different series... about Mandalorians, it feels weird to me. Just do more Boba Fett stuff in 'The Mandalorian' make it an hour long for crying out loud, make room for all the other Mandalorian centered content you want idk... but then I guess Ahsoka and Obi-wan are 'technically' two shows centered around Jedi so........

I don't know! I don't know why it bugs me.

But it does.
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Philo Hunter wrote:
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Femina wrote:
3 years ago
I can say, I'm a little disappointed that the Boba Fett show isn't Mandalorian Season 3.

I don't know WHY exactly just yet since this is a weird bias I don't carry over to Marvel shows, but too many Star Wars shows running at once bugs me... and having more than one of them be focused around Mandalorians bugs me twice as hard.
I got the impression (although maybe I'm wrong) that most of the new series are going to be one-offs and series getting multiple seasons like Mando has will be the oddity. If all the ones set in and around the same time as Mandalorian are all leading up to some big bad/main event like Thrawn that would be pretty cool and make it all feel less like a narrative scattershot.
I guess? I don't get the impression that the 'New Republic' show is gonna be a one off. Ahsoka 'may' be. Obi-Wan is, we don't really know what the deal is with Andor (a whole series dedicated to a cardboard cutout of a character from the Rogue One movie staring a bunch of cardboard cutouts who we already know die) Acolyte is too far out to know anything at all about it. Then we got the Boba Fett news post credits so we honestly have no way of knowing what the plan is there either...

I don't know why I don't like so many series being developed concurrently, THAT much I at least attribute to my own sense of bias and simply refuse to actively hold against the future of the series... but we've got 'the Mandalorian' and then we've got 'Boba Fett' and their two distinctly different series... about Mandalorians, it feels weird to me. Just do more Boba Fett stuff in 'The Mandalorian' make it an hour long for crying out loud, make room for all the other Mandalorian centered content you want idk... but then I guess Ahsoka and Obi-wan are 'technically' two shows centered around Jedi so........

I don't know! I don't know why it bugs me.

But it does.
I suppose it's just the sense that they're rushing a billion things out for the sake of capitalising on the goodwill that Mando generated. Even if each individual project is given care and attention (Disney's certainly big enough so to do), there's the stink of corporate greed all over it. And like... they are a business? I can hardly say it's BAD. But it just feels a bit insincere, I guess. I suppose it'll fade if the shows are generally good.
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They are throwing mud at the wall and looking at what sticks. But its pretty obvious what works... stay with the source material and make the base fans happy. Its not that complicated.
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Femina wrote:
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ut we've got 'the Mandalorian' and then we've got 'Boba Fett' and their two distinctly different series... about Mandalorians, it feels weird to me.
I think there's some expectation adjustment needed. Again, I could be 100% off, but from how things are set up and what we've seen of Boba in the Mandolorian I don't see his series having anything to do with Mandalorians. It seemed like its going to be about him being a crime boss and underworld stuff.
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It's the same thing as MCU and the big super hero movies. They are throwing paint at the wall knowing people will eat it up, for now. Personally I've been burned out and not interested in a single super hero movie since Endgame, and I feel like it's going to reach that point with Star Wars now as well.
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RedMountain wrote:
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It's the same thing as MCU and the big super hero movies. They are throwing paint at the wall knowing people will eat it up, for now. Personally I've been burned out and not interested in a single super hero movie since Endgame, and I feel like it's going to reach that point with Star Wars now as well.
WandaVision seems to indicate People are just as pleased with Superhero content as ever for the time being... It IS pretty good. Marvel is consistantly excellent at maintaining it's 'superheroes' central theme... and wrapping it inside many unique modes of storytelling. I imagine it WONT get old so long as they continue to save the 'base concept superheroes' for the big event chapters and keep using the solo films as send ups to other genres and stuff.

Marvel stuff is why I realize I'm biased in this game. I DONT notice when Marvel announces fourty things and am just like 'cool, forty guaranteed time sinks down the road!' with a reputation for delivering relatively quality content. Maybe the problem currently is that Mando is thus far, the ONLY quality Star Wars Content in awhile? Thus making it feel less probable to properly emulate Marvel's consistency?
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Femina wrote:
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RedMountain wrote:
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It's the same thing as MCU and the big super hero movies. They are throwing paint at the wall knowing people will eat it up, for now. Personally I've been burned out and not interested in a single super hero movie since Endgame, and I feel like it's going to reach that point with Star Wars now as well.
WandaVision seems to indicate People are just as pleased with Superhero content as ever for the time being... It IS pretty good. Marvel is consistantly excellent at maintaining it's 'superheroes' central theme... and wrapping it inside many unique modes of storytelling. I imagine it WONT get old so long as they continue to save the 'base concept superheroes' for the big event chapters and keep using the solo films as send ups to other genres and stuff.

Marvel stuff is why I realize I'm biased in this game. I DONT notice when Marvel announces fourty things and am just like 'cool, forty guaranteed time sinks down the road!' with a reputation for delivering relatively quality content. Maybe the problem currently is that Mando is thus far, the ONLY quality Star Wars Content in awhile? Thus making it feel less probable to properly emulate Marvel's consistency?
Marvel does seem to be doing it well, I just imagine at some point it might hit a wall. That's why I said personally I'm just burned out on it. I have friends that are bonkers over all the new shows and I honestly couldn't care less. Maybe I'm just getting old, but Endgame was just a nice stopping point for me. My favorite characters (Iron Man, Thor, Hulk) aren't going to be featured that much anymore(if at all) so I'm not super excited for much that is coming out except maybe Thor Love and Thunder and possibly the next Guardians film.

That's a good point on Star Wars with Mando being probably the closest feeling thing to the "originals" that the fans seem to fawn over.
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The thing to remember about Disney is they made about ten Lion King films. They did this with all their huge animated movies, they just kept firing out sequels over and over that nobody ever saw or cared about until they stopped turning any profit, then they just stopped doing it on the spot. Their business model is the artistic version of strip mining.

If they own an IP they will drive it into the ground. That's all they know how to do. Do not expect subtlety. Do not expect standards. Expect sequels. Spinoffs. Reboots. Remakes. Over and over and over and over.

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The thing to remember about Disney is they made about ten Lion King films. They did this with all their huge animated movies, they just kept firing out sequels over and over that nobody ever saw or cared about until they stopped turning any profit, then they just stopped doing it on the spot. Their business model is the artistic version of strip mining.

If they own an IP they will drive it into the ground. That's all they know how to do. Do not expect subtlety. Do not expect standards. Expect sequels. Spinoffs. Reboots. Remakes. Over and over and over and over.

This is the way.


We're lucky that we're nowhere near the bottom of the barrel with Star Wars and Marvel. But believe me, we'll get there.
As far as that specific marketing strategy goes, they sort of wobble in and out of it. For a long time they were very precious about their beloved franchises because they didn't want to hurt consumer credibility. This attitude still persists in their short prints of blu-ray and dvd releases and so on. Then they realized there was money in the names and just went nuts with the sequels. Then they realized that was hurting customer attitudes and they stopped again. They waver between restraint and exploitation based entirely on sales figures. Either way, ruthless.

But hey. Multi-billion-dollar megacorp. From an institution of this nature, there are worse possible evils.
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Dogfish wrote:
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The thing to remember about Disney is they made about ten Lion King films. They did this with all their huge animated movies, they just kept firing out sequels over and over that nobody ever saw or cared about until they stopped turning any profit, then they just stopped doing it on the spot. Their business model is the artistic version of strip mining.

If they own an IP they will drive it into the ground. That's all they know how to do. Do not expect subtlety. Do not expect standards. Expect sequels. Spinoffs. Reboots. Remakes. Over and over and over and over.

This is the way.


We're lucky that we're nowhere near the bottom of the barrel with Star Wars and Marvel. But believe me, we'll get there.
... There's four Lion King films?

The Lion King

The Lion King 3D which doesn't really count as a different movie afterall. So knock that back down to Three Lion King films.

The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride straight to video

Llive action Lion King... which is just a complete remake of the original one...

I mean... made over the course of 30 years that doesn't seem that egregious? There's EIGHT Harry Potter films and they haven't even started remaking them yet!
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There are 8 movies and 2 TV series.
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And don't forget the ninth movie - The Lying King, Back door furries 5. The porn video.
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Dogfish wrote:
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There are 8 movies and 2 TV series.
What!? What are they? I know there was a Timone and Pumba show decades ago, and then that awful Lion Guard show... but there's not 8 movies.
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There's three Lion Guard movies too.
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