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Steven Bell is the author of the Miss Marvelous and M-Girls series. http://www.dangerbabecentral.com/xpage/ ... /main.html
He wrote 69 episodes of his superheroine and her side-kick Elle Mental. I recently stumbled upon his work. Void suggested Bell's series to me, and I am thankful he did. The series is the best superheroine erotica that I have read. It has the perfect mix of peril and sex. The two acts often co-sided with one another.

The stories flowed fearlessly and every conflict is foreshadowed in the story. There are a few grammar errors, but the stories are well written. Most importantly, he practices continuity. However, I believe there is a major plot hole in his work.

What happen to him? Is he still around?

I have a question for him regarding M-Girls #24 -- The Day that Ms. Marvelous Died. Ms. Marvelous does not die as Solar Flare is dawning our heroine's costume to prove she is better than Ms. Marvelous or just wants to be like her. She foolishly challenges Ms. Marvelous's greatest foe and his entire gang at his mansion.

She is fucked to death in the end. The plot hole lies in how Solar Flare was defeated. True she is weak to sexual attacks and can be fucked to death due to a system shock. HOWEVER, she does not use her superpowers of solar energy at all during this fight. Solar Flare as the same powers as Ms. Marvelous and has more powers. She can absorbs solar energy from the sun and can fire solar beams and solar flares. Furthermore, Nev a mutant with the power to heat anything was able to harm her. How can heat harm Solar Flare?

I have read all of Steven's books, and this the only plot hole that I noticed. It's a really big one that needs answers.
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As far as I know Stephen Bell is still creating the graphic comics on his site and updates those occasionally. He holds a regular job as he says and thus attends to his work on that site on an irregular basis. I don't see any way to contact him through that site unfortunately but if one could, I suspect he'd receive a mountain of praise for how much he's inspired countless would-be writers to take a chance on Superheroine peril stories. I know he helped inspire me!
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tallyho wrote:
5 years ago
Guys WE HAVE A SPOILER BUTTON

PLEASE USE IT FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO NOT KNOW THE END OF A STORY BEFORE ITS READ
I'm sorry. The sorries started in 2000. I didn't think it would be a problem. :weep: :sad: :sad: :sad:
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As far as i can tell he is inactive and has been so since around 2011. Perhaps he was called back to the mother ship?

Mr x is the best person to ask as the one that hosts his content, but i suspect even he no longer has current contact details. It's a shame that he disappeared from the scene like that - I fear he has no idea just how beloved his old work truly is.

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As for the Solar Flare thing... you're not wrong about it being inconsistent, but that episode is intended as a fantasy depicting Ms Marvelous facing down her whole menagerie of foes at once and finally succumbing - while also not actually ending the series. So, to sell that image, he took some short cuts that gloss over that she had extra talents. Frankly, the character also doesn't speak or behave like herself, and presents much more like Jodie. It's even possible he made that plotshift after he'd written the episode, either sincerely intending to kill Jodie or perhaps planning on bringing her back from the dead. Either way, it reads, and is intended to read, like it is the final fight for Jodie, and that it ends up being Flare allows the fantasy to stand while also keeping the series running.

It's not watertight, but it's damned good ship content.
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GeekyPornCritic wrote:
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tallyho wrote:
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Guys WE HAVE A SPOILER BUTTON

PLEASE USE IT FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO NOT KNOW THE END OF A STORY BEFORE ITS READ
I'm sorry. The sorries started in 2000. I didn't think it would be a problem. :weep: :sad: :sad: :sad:
Well you yourself said you had only found them through Void. Which I assume would mean recently.
Whilst I have heard of his work I hadnt read any
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Et tu, Void?

LOL.

GODDAMN THERES A SPOILER BUTTON!!!!


ITS THE EYE WITH THE SLASH ACROSS IT ON THE FAR RIGHT ABOVE THE TEXT BOX WHEN YOU GO TO MAKE A FULL EDITOR POST
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Humbug to you and your fancy technowizardry! I said spoliers, didn't I?

In our collective defense, the spoliers we are discussing are softer than they appear. The titles of the episodes give as much away from the get-go - that there's is a supposed death, but that clearly the series won't end... Wait, am I still digging?
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Void wrote:
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As far as i can tell he is inactive and has been so since around 2011. Perhaps he was called back to the mother ship?

Mr x is the best person to ask as the one that hosts his content, but i suspect even he no longer has current contact details. It's a shame that he disappeared from the scene like that - I fear he has no idea just how beloved his old work truly is.

Spoilers...

As for the Solar Flare thing... you're not wrong about it being inconsistent, but that episode is intended as a fantasy depicting Ms Marvelous facing down her whole menagerie of foes at once and finally succumbing - while also not actually ending the series. So, to sell that image, he took some short cuts that gloss over that she had extra talents. Frankly, the character also doesn't speak or behave like herself, and presents much more like Jodie. It's even possible he made that plotshift after he'd written the episode, either sincerely intending to kill Jodie or perhaps planning on bringing her back from the dead. Either way, it reads, and is intended to read, like it is the final fight for Jodie, and that it ends up being Flare allows the fantasy to stand while also keeping the series running.

It's not watertight, but it's damned good ship content.
You bring up really good points.

As per Tallyho! SPOILER ALERT

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Panther and Elle Mental hypnotize that Solar Flare wanted to be "Ms. Marvelous to her very core". Maybe that is the reason why she did not use her powers because Ms. Marvelous lacks those abilities? It is a weak argument because she needed to use her Solar Flare to escape Jack Hill after it grabbed her and the gang's strongest members ganged up on her.

However, this does not explain how Nev's heat powers hurt her. I can understand Solar Flare being turned on by her breast being played with, but Nev was sending heat into her body. Nev's powers should not have an negative effect Solar Flare, and should charge her body instead of harming her. So Solar Flare should have powered up and got horny at the same which would naturalize both effects.
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I'd forgotten some of that - it's been some time for me. But yeah, the trying to embody Ms Marvelous thing makes a kind of sense. As for how the powers lined up... again, you're right that it's a bit inconsistent, but to give the author some slack we never got to see how the sartak affected Flare before. It's possible that interaction immediately shuts off her access or use of those extra powers for a time, and that would line up with how the scene plays, allowing everything to transpire like it does. Since Jodie never had those abilities, there's no precedent for how they ought to be affected by the sartak.
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I'd forgotten some of that - it's been some time for me. But yeah, the trying to embody Ms Marvelous thing makes a kind of sense. As for how the powers lined up... again, you're right that it's a bit inconsistent, but to give the author some slack we never got to see how the sartak affected Flare before. It's possible that interaction immediately shuts off her access or use of those extra powers for a time, and that would line up with how the scene plays, allowing everything to transpire like it does. Since Jodie never had those abilities, there's no precedent for how they ought to be affected by the sartak.
Now that you mention it..
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Remember when Solar Flare encountered Ms. Marvelous? She was forcing Ms. Marvelous to have sex to defeat Ms. Marvelous. Sure Solar Flare was the dominant party, but she was enjoying herself sexually. She should have weaken herself in the process.
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Solar Flare is a lesbian. How was Prince Lomac turning her on when he fucked her to death? How was Micky and Smithy turning her on earlier in the fight? Maybe she was bisexual and had stronger desires for women?

Ms. Marvelous or not, pending to be someone doesn't change your sexuality.
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You know we're just scandalously smack talking you behind the safety of these spolier bubbles, T... Or are we?
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Yeah, it's unclear why Flare got on so well while being so sexually active - but then nothing was actually being done to her body at the time, right? I think only physical stimulation triggers the sartak, and she herself wasn't at the time. This same explanation applies to the second issue - that the physical stimulation matters irrespective of what is going on in their head. The whole conceit of the sartak is that the body overules the head. Likewise Jodie has a number of lesbian romps, where her body clearly goes with it, despite her being fully straight.
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You know we're just scandalously smack talking you behind the safety of these spolier bubbles, T... Or are we?
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Yeah, it's unclear why Flare got on so well while being so sexually active - but then nothing was actually being done to her body at the time, right? I think only physical stimulation triggers the sartak, and she herself wasn't at the time. This same explanation applies to the second issue - that the physical stimulation matters irrespective of what is going on in their head. The whole conceit of the sartak is that the body overules the head. Likewise Jodie has a number of lesbian romps, where her body clearly goes with it, despite her being fully straight.
I don't think Steven was too consistent with Solar Flare's Sartak.
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The Sartak is also psychological and any sexual triggers it. Jodi has to fight off the Sartak when she has wet dreams. Visual and physical simulation affects Marvelous and Flare. There are times when Marvelous is weaken or arouse by looking at a cock or sucking a cock.

So Flare should have been affected by the Sartak when she was sexually dominating Marvelous. Sucking on Marvelous's tits should turn Flare on, thus making Flare wet, horny and weak.
Another reason why I want to contact Steven and I forgot to put in the first post. I have thought about ordering a custom based on his work, but I want his permission before speaking to a producer about it. I've already order a custom video similar to Ms. Marvelous before I even knew Steven's stories. My character Omega Girl has the same weakness without the consequence of death. She simply becomes a submissive sex toy.
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Void wrote:
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You know we're just scandalously smack talking you behind the safety of these spolier bubbles, T... Or are we?
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Yeah, it's unclear why Flare got on so well while being so sexually active - but then nothing was actually being done to her body at the time, right? I think only physical stimulation triggers the sartak, and she herself wasn't at the time. This same explanation applies to the second issue - that the physical stimulation matters irrespective of what is going on in their head. The whole conceit of the sartak is that the body overules the head. Likewise Jodie has a number of lesbian romps, where her body clearly goes with it, despite her being fully straight.
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Speaking of use, can you edit your post that just says 'Spoilers...' in it and put a button in there please, ta.
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Steven Bell is the Mark Twain of HIP fiction. Anything I ever create in the genre is inspired by his brilliant body of work. Although he produced a large number of stories, as well as some excellent poser stories, I wish there were more.
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Ah yeah, fair enough. I don't think the affects are depicted as being as strong, but you're right that it isn't just physical stimulation that pulled at the sartak. It probably is just a story inconsistency - driven by a meta that the sartak is a plot device that is intended to affect 'victims' while he didn't want anything to similarly affect 'aggressors'. You can forgive why he would do that, especially bearing in mind that it's possible he had no idea he was going to want to use Flare later as a good guy. In the end the stories aren't perfect in the continuity department, but it gets a gold star for even having continuity at all across such a long list of episodes which each went so far into sexual peril.
You might not be able to contact the author, but I find it hard to imagine a world where he would actively dislike you ordering a custom based on his ideas. If anything, it would promote greater awareness of his stories. But if you're really worried about it then I think Mr X is the person to fire that question towards. It's possible he could get a message to Steven Bell.
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Bert wrote:
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Steven Bell is the Mark Twain of HIP fiction. Anything I ever create in the genre is inspired by his brilliant body of work. Although he produced a large number of stories, as well as some excellent poser stories, I wish there were more.
I'm surprised that he said he ran out of ideas. There were a lot of things he could have done.

Nev and Ms. Marvelous never had a fair one on one fight.
Elle Mental and Ms. Marvelous having a lesbian romance.
Or Joel and Ms. Marvelous having a romance as both thought about it.
The story mentions there are other superheroines. Where are they? Who are they?
Elle Mental and Ms, Marvelous being defeated and seduced into a threesome. I'm surprised this never happen. They've been fucked in front of each other, but never interacted with each other.
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In fairness he wrote about 40 stories about an OC and her universe, if he says that's all he's got in him then fair enough. Better to leave it at that.
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In fairness he wrote about 40 stories about an OC and her universe, if he says that's all he's got in him then fair enough. Better to leave it at that.
I wouldn't call Ms. Marvelous original at least not by her physical design. Her appearance, name, and costume are copied from Ms. Marvel. Her character's personality and weaknesses are original for his character.
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GeekyPornCritic wrote:
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I wouldn't call Ms. Marvelous original at least not by her physical design. Her appearance, name, and costume are copied from Ms. Marvel. Her character's personality and weaknesses are original for his character.
Bit weird to fix on physical design in a written series.

The background a personality is where the character creation is for me. Not wracking the brain for 3 weeks trying to figure out what colour leotard hasn't been used elsewhere.
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I wouldn't call Ms. Marvelous original at least not by her physical design. Her appearance, name, and costume are copied from Ms. Marvel. Her character's personality and weaknesses are original for his character.
Bit weird to fix on physical design in a written series.

The background a personality is where the character creation is for me. Not wracking the brain for 3 weeks trying to figure out what colour leotard hasn't been used elsewhere.
I don't know how I am weird. He has photos of her on his site. Her design obliviously is based on Ms. Marvel. Furthermore, each episode/novel describes her costume in great details.

I agree her personality and character are original besides her physical design.
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While the character name and appearance might be derivative - which would be true of a great many characters in fiction - the actual character of Ms. Marvelous is arguably the *ultimate* OC character that exists in our genre. Her backstory, her personality, her powers and weaknesses, her side characters and villains - is all vibrant original content. She has a mythos and lore all of her own, and her written character is completely distinct from anything anywhere else. If she isn't an OC then we don't have any.
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Do know what a really cool story would have been? If Johnny Hawkeye uses his pheromones to make Elle Mental fall in love with him and uses her to have a threesome with Ms. Marvelous. He can tame both M-Girls with one stone.

He may be my favorite original villain in the story. Ms. Marvelous is much stronger than Johnny, but his pheromones make it difficult for her to want to beat him. He isn't able to fully put her under his spell, but his pheromones fill her with desire. She wants sex from him so she doesn't always try to finish him off and unintentionally gives him an opening to violate her.
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