Clips4sale's Outdated Model/Format

[GeekyPornCritic]

Hello everyone,

I have one complaint about Clips4sale's model. You do not have life time access to clips. Manvids is miles of Clips4sale in terms of site's functions and access to purchased videos. If you lose a video due to hardware failure, then you are out of luck with Clips4sale. They can only reactivated downloads within the first 90 days of purchase. If you lose your collection or your favorite video, then you must buy it again or contact the producer.

Manyvids gives lifetime access to purchased content and you have an account on the site. You may log into your account at anytime to purchase new videos or watch purchased clips. Don't worry too much if a video is lost on your hard drive because you can get back from Manyvids.

Clips4sale really needs to catch up because their site is very outdated in terms of appearance and lack of customer accounts.

[Imagineer]

Have you provided that feedback directly to the proprieter of Clips4sale?

Redownloading would be a nice perk, but it almost certainly complicates the business model and raises barriers to entry for both producers and consumers. As it is today, they don't have to keep long-term detailed purchase records -- and those long-term purchase records thus can't be stolen by hackers or seized by law enforcement. They don't need perpetual licenses, don't have long-term bandwidth liabilities or other future support costs for past purchases. Sure, as a customer you don't care about any of that, you just want your stuff -- but it affects their costs thus your costs and probably how much or even what product they can offer.

The Clips4sale model also keeps a lot of control with the producer, which is good for you. Think things through, and you'll probably come to the conclusion that you don't want content distributors to have more power over what you can consume and when and how you can consume it.

Keep your stuff backed up, or take the risk that you might have to buy it again.

[Shakeshift]

It's called a hard drive. They're cheap AF and plentiful. Just back everything up.

Manyvids is like a goddamned ghost town. Customers don't go to Manyvids unless they want to see models who have had their C4S accounts permanently closed.

[Mr. X]

Some people can't store movies. Military personnel overseas for example.

[GeekyPornCritic]

It's called a hard drive. They're cheap AF and plentiful. Just back everything up.

Manyvids is like a goddamned ghost town. Customers don't go to Manyvids unless they want to see models who have had their C4S accounts permanently closed.

Hard drives are great, but they will eventually fail. You may say buy a new one to replace the old one. That's logical. However, most of us have had a moment with a brand new electronic and it fails within the first few days. It would be horrible to lose everything in the moment. I had a new computer and it died within a few days. It was clearly defected and I had it replaced from the company. Sometimes bad luck happens.

I see many Clips4sale owners on Manyvids. They are active on both sites. Lady Frye is one of the most popular stars at C4S and she has an active account at Manyvids. Manyvids also have an option of featuring discounts and she uses this feature for promotions of classic content. Her husband is also active at both sites.

Manyvids appears to offer larger files on their store to allow owners to upload 1080 HD videos. Alex Coal from Primal Fetish has a Superheroine video in 1080 HD. The video is in the same style as all of Primal's videos, but it is only at Alex's store. The 1080 HD quality makes the video very bright with better color than 1280 videos.
https://www.manyvids.com/Video/612095/H ... hree-Ways/

[Visitor]

Microsoft has taught us one thing and that's back up everything and have more than one copy. Especially don't trust another party to have your only back up since they won't replace it if it's their fault for losing your copy. Microsoft and Megaupload users found out the hard way.

I did have my computer fail and they replaced the hard drive so I had to start all over replacing the contents when I didn't have a full copy. So I've gotten more careful it having two or three back ups.

[MightyHypnotic]

First, ManyVids hasnt been around that long. Second, you should ALWAYS back up you files. It's not a matter of if, but when. I've lost countless hard drives and they give no indication of when they will go, (sometimes they do but you usually only have a very SHORT window to backup)

If you spend a lot of money on clips, there's no reason why you can' spend 99$ on a 2TB drive to back up your purchases. Once a file has been delivered successfully, the transaction is completed.

Considering the fact that the files live on my hard drive, I will usually send a replacement link if I can verify a purchase but that responsibility should NOT rest on my shoulders.


Edit: I take it back. it's $70!!!!!

[lionbadger]

Hard drives are great, but they will eventually fail. You may say buy a new one to replace the old one. That's logical.

Who is saving things on a hard drive in this day and age? Cloud storage is made for this sort of thing

[Visitor]

Cloud is only as reliable as the provider and that means their storage device instead of yours. You need to check on how many copies they make and what happens if their end fails or they go out of business.

Legitimate storage users lost all their files when Megauploader was closed because of piracy. Microsoft email users lost emails when servers failed and weren't backed up.

[tallyho]

Hard drives are great, but they will eventually fail. You may say buy a new one to replace the old one. That's logical.

Who is saving things on a hard drive in this day and age? Cloud storage is made for this sort of thing

I am. Well 2 hardrives and my laptop to be precise. I dont trust the Cloud with my porn is the bottom line.
The last thing I want is the world finding out what I get up to with a small macaque and an avocado. Oh crap.

[Heroine Addict]

You could always go the Old School route and back-up files to Data DVD-Rs. Although even they will be need to be copied/replaced every few years.

[GeekyPornCritic]

Hard drives are great, but they will eventually fail. You may say buy a new one to replace the old one. That's logical.

Who is saving things on a hard drive in this day and age? Cloud storage is made for this sort of thing

Cloud can change their policy at any time. They may ban pornographic materials. You would lose your files and maybe your account. Never put your full trust in corporations.

[Shakeshift]

Cloud is only as good as the service provider. If they go under or get hacked, you can lose all your content and you have zero recourse. At least with a hard drive it's a single cost and then it's done. No $10/month for eternity. You just pay $70 and you're covered. Pack your hard drive in two waterproof containers with a packet of desiccant and you're fine barring anything catastrophic.

Everybody should have at least one backup drive available, and if you have two hard drives make sure they're stored in separate locations just in case of theft or a fire or a flood.

Manyvids is one of MANY clips4sale wannabes that have popped up but most of them fail within 1-2 years because they can't compete and frankly they're not all that good.. ClipCentral, ClipClinic, ClipDoctor etc... Their menu at ManyVids is easy to navigate but their whole ideology is whack. it's geared towards a bias for women producers so nothing personal but I'm not giving them any business unless they're also looking out for guys as well.

All the drives post 2016 are extra stable, by the way. The technology has improved considerably since the tech from fifteen years ago. Unless you're beating them, they're not likely to fail. Just take care of them and store them somewhere cool, dry, and safe. If you're REALLY worried buy a solid state drive. Those things are hardcore.

[Blx]

You could always go the Old School route and back-up files to Data DVD-Rs. Although even they will be need to be copied/replaced every few years.

Yeah, but disc drives are already moving away and I have trouble just getting my old discs read by my drives. Everything wears out.

Personally I think a multi TB SSD is the best way to go.

[TIEnTEEZ]

Hello everyone,

I have one complaint about Clips4sale's model. You do not have life time access to clips. Manvids is miles of Clips4sale in terms of site's functions and access to purchased videos. If you lose a video due to hardware failure, then you are out of luck with Clips4sale. They can only reactivated downloads within the first 90 days of purchase. If you lose your collection or your favorite video, then you must buy it again or contact the producer.

Manyvids gives lifetime access to purchased content and you have an account on the site. You may log into your account at anytime to purchase new videos or watch purchased clips. Don't worry too much if a video is lost on your hard drive because you can get back from Manyvids.

Clips4sale really needs to catch up because their site is very outdated in terms of appearance and lack of customer accounts.

I have to agree with you. Clips4Sale is ancient.
I don't really care much about lifetime access to content. I keep my videos on my OneDrive, so I am not too worried about losing them.

But Clips4Sale has a lots of other problem. The layout of the site is horrific. It took me literally months of using their site to figure out what I was even looking at half the time. When you do a search, they show you videos on top and then stores on the bottom, but having two separate sets of search results is confusing as hell unless you already know what you are looking at.

The user interface is also terrible. Click once on a video and you get a popup. Click twice and the video opens in a new window. Not intuitive at all. And on a touch-screen is absolutely unusable.

Each store has a separate shopping cart, so you can't buy videos from more than one store in a single transaction.

Content producers have to post each format for a video separately, so as you browse a store you end up seeing the SAME video over and over again in different formats instead of just one listing with all the formats available.

I'm used to all of that stuff, but my one really big pet peeve is the search feature. You can search everything by keyword, or you can narrow by category. Great. But once you pick a category, you can't go back to searching everything - there's no option to select ALL again.

And the thing that really bugs me no end is that you can't search for vids that fit multiple categories. This would be a tremendously useful feature. I'd kill to be able to such for both Superheroine AND Forced Orgasms - but you can't do it, and that's just insane.

Having said all of that - Clips4Sale is still my go-to store for clips. Because as bad as it is, most of the other stores out there are just as bad or have similar, or worse, limitations. I tried KinkBomb for a while, but their site is a catastrophe. So I've been trying out iWantClips - but they seem to focus pretty much on Femdom and have very little superheroine content. Their site also has some disastrously bad problems like their paging. If you are on page 150 of a list and you hit the back button on your browser, you lose your place and there's no way to get back to the page you were on - you are just fucked.

I haven't had a lot of experience with ManyVids. But I find myself occasionally ending up there because at least the previews for a lot of their videos have sound. I often want to try a video from a new performer and before I buy anything, I want to hear her voice and it's amazing to me how hard this can be sometimes. Some Clips4sale videos have pictures with no samples of the video - and some of the ones that do have samples are completely useless like Christina Carter who shows you the opening credits for some baffling reason. And then some of the ones with previews have no audio. It's really frustrating.

It's so frustrating, in fact, that I spent a lot of time seriously consider developing my own web site to compete with them, because I can see all the problems and how to fix them.

[Shakeshift]

Many clip places have tried to compete with them, but if you try to compete with them they have a way of coming out on top in the end. Competition is fierce, and they don't take prisoners. Their record so far for squashing the competition is like... 22 wins, 0 losses.

[Lurkndog]

If you really want to future-proof your files, back them up on CD-R. I've gotten data off of CD-Rs at work that were so abused you could see daylight through them.

I do think portable hard drives are pretty good these days. Especially when they're not connected and stored in a cool dry place.

For extra security, put them in a fire safe, or make a copy to go into a safety deposit box at the bank.

[TIEnTEEZ]

Many clip places have tried to compete with them, but if you try to compete with them they have a way of coming out on top in the end. Competition is fierce, and they don't take prisoners. Their record so far for squashing the competition is like... 22 wins, 0 losses.

What kind of ways are you talking about? I mean... I think a lot of their success is just momentum. They are entrenched, everyone knows about them, and so they have a big market share just from existing customers because they've had a long time to build up customers.

But you seem to be suggesting that they may be engaged in some sort of sabotage or something.

[HeroineFall84]

Google drive. $1.99 for 100GB storage. Super compatible with most streaming services and accessible on damn near every device (except shitty Amazon devices). Google isn't going anywhere. It's a safe bet. I'd stay clear of platter drives. Had one fail and I lost years worth of SHiP content.

[Shakeshift]

What kind of ways are you talking about? I mean... I think a lot of their success is just momentum. They are entrenched, everyone knows about them, and so they have a big market share just from existing customers because they've had a long time to build up customers.

I disagree with the idea that their success is just chalked up to momentum and coincidental timing. If the formula were that simple, then someone would have already been able to topple them. It's much deeper than just blind luck. WAY deeper.