Hi All,
How important is story in fetish videos? Do you watch the whole story or do you just fast forward to the fetish elements?
As a consumer I find myself fast forwarding to fetish elements that I enjoy and don't really care about story. As a producer, I'm really trying to emphasize the story elements, but feel the fetish elements need to take center stage.
Story vs. Fetish Elements in Videos
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Quite generally, I think the purpose of the story is to give depth and meaning to the fetish elements. If the fetish elements are devoid of significance (basically because the story fails to portray the woman as a superheroine in peril) then it's just an arid display of an actress going through some weird kinky stuff. This is the main reason I never understood pornography. To me, porn feels like a documentary with humans instead of wildlife.
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I like having a story, personally. As mentioned, without it, it's just people showing sexual moves with each other. With a good plot behind it, there's motivation for what's happening when the "good stuff" begins to happen.
If I see a Superheroine being dominated and losing against a Villainess, it will excites me.
But if I see that there is a relationship of hatred between the two, combined with the fact the Superheroine will have to surrender her Kingdom, Power and Freedom in case of defeat, then this will be even greater.
The story doesn't need to be ultra deep with over 9000 plot twist :
It can be simple, the important thing is to have some build up to appreciate the characters even more.
But if I see that there is a relationship of hatred between the two, combined with the fact the Superheroine will have to surrender her Kingdom, Power and Freedom in case of defeat, then this will be even greater.
The story doesn't need to be ultra deep with over 9000 plot twist :
It can be simple, the important thing is to have some build up to appreciate the characters even more.
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I agree with Ezekiel. Even if you "cut to the chase" pretty quickly, I feel there needs to be some backstory to contextualize the peril. A little dialogue can set things up nicely. It doesn't need to be huge speeches, but just a few lines to establish the roles of the characters and their ongoing war.
The way I personally look at it is that the heroine appears in weekly adventures on an imaginary TV channel. She always wins. Every single week.
So I see the peril video as being the one episode in which everything goes wrong for and she's finally defeated. It's like the episode of Wonder Woman I always wanted, but never got to see.
The way I personally look at it is that the heroine appears in weekly adventures on an imaginary TV channel. She always wins. Every single week.
So I see the peril video as being the one episode in which everything goes wrong for and she's finally defeated. It's like the episode of Wonder Woman I always wanted, but never got to see.
"A brass unicorn has been catapulted across a London street and impaled an eminent surgeon. Words fail me, gentlemen."
I find that the first time I watch a video, I watch the whole thing so I can get the story. After that, if I watch again, I usually just fast forward to my favorite scene(s).
But I think it depends a lot on the story/fetish. For me, it's all about power, and if there are story elements that emphasize the power of the villain (or the powerlessness of the heroine) then that's cool.
But I think it depends a lot on the story/fetish. For me, it's all about power, and if there are story elements that emphasize the power of the villain (or the powerlessness of the heroine) then that's cool.
The story is real important to me.
One reason I love the Fausta episode of Wonder Woman is we get to see Fausta planning, scheming, and preparing her trap for Wonder Woman. I get the most excited in the build up to the trap. There's something thrilling about knowing the heroine is walking into a trap but she hasn't a clue she's in danger. I think its one reason I'm such a fan of Supergirl falling into a Kryptonite trap. The vilaliness has schemed, she's acquired the Kryptonite, given Supergirl the bread crumbs to find her and of course lead into the trap. Maybe she's even set up other traps which are supposed to fail but Supergirl doesn't know that.
Finally she walks in, strong confident. The villainess is thrilled as Supergirl has no idea what's coming. Then the trap is sprung, maybe Supergirl is tricked into opening a lead box filled with kryptonite, a cage of the stuff springs up and traps her, or even a Kryptonite laced kiss deals the Maiden of Might the weakening blow.
What fun is it to skip over all that and just have some baddie go, "Here, Kryptonite!" and have Supergirl fall over and swoon.
One reason I love the Fausta episode of Wonder Woman is we get to see Fausta planning, scheming, and preparing her trap for Wonder Woman. I get the most excited in the build up to the trap. There's something thrilling about knowing the heroine is walking into a trap but she hasn't a clue she's in danger. I think its one reason I'm such a fan of Supergirl falling into a Kryptonite trap. The vilaliness has schemed, she's acquired the Kryptonite, given Supergirl the bread crumbs to find her and of course lead into the trap. Maybe she's even set up other traps which are supposed to fail but Supergirl doesn't know that.
Finally she walks in, strong confident. The villainess is thrilled as Supergirl has no idea what's coming. Then the trap is sprung, maybe Supergirl is tricked into opening a lead box filled with kryptonite, a cage of the stuff springs up and traps her, or even a Kryptonite laced kiss deals the Maiden of Might the weakening blow.
What fun is it to skip over all that and just have some baddie go, "Here, Kryptonite!" and have Supergirl fall over and swoon.
Yes Supergirl, that's right its a necklace for you....What's the matter you don't like Kryptonite?
Story makes everything better and worth it. It makes it hotter and is an opportunity to make the heroines and villains be believable as heroines and villains which makes the fetish elements much more powerful. Think of them as Yin and yang. Its not worth having one without the other.
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Here's a step further: how important is "sex" in the story? Obviously sexual things need to happen but do you always want it to lead to sex?
Well depends. It doesn't necesarilly have to lead to full on sex. However if i watch a vid and the story is so good that i really believe the characters and the heroine is in peril in a really sexy costume and there is no sex the videos sometimes feel like one big tease. Not saying its bad but still a tease.Logan wrote:Here's a step further: how important is "sex" in the story? Obviously sexual things need to happen but do you always want it to lead to sex?
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Story is important, like someone said above, if you have no story and just some dressed up women doing fetish type scenes it kinda ruins the movie i think. You need a build up and a bit of background info. Does not have to be a 20 minute long epic dialogue story build up though.
In answer to logan and sex in a video. I got into this genre for the sex/nudity/adult stuff. However i do have a collection of movies that do not include sex, some have little to no nudity. Those movies are not my favourite, some tell a good story and have a good looking actress, but it is not what im after in a movie about superheroines in peril.
Alot of people, not all, got into s.h.i.p because they want to see something the comic books and movies and tv shows do not show you. So if a movie comes out with no nudity/sex, to me its kinda like "Hmmm i could just read a comic and see this" its a bit uninteresting.
In answer to logan and sex in a video. I got into this genre for the sex/nudity/adult stuff. However i do have a collection of movies that do not include sex, some have little to no nudity. Those movies are not my favourite, some tell a good story and have a good looking actress, but it is not what im after in a movie about superheroines in peril.
Alot of people, not all, got into s.h.i.p because they want to see something the comic books and movies and tv shows do not show you. So if a movie comes out with no nudity/sex, to me its kinda like "Hmmm i could just read a comic and see this" its a bit uninteresting.
By definition a fetish is really a substitute for sex, so I don't think sex, in the vanilla sense, has to happen at all in a story.Logan wrote:Here's a step further: how important is "sex" in the story? Obviously sexual things need to happen but do you always want it to lead to sex?
I would bet that most people who are into Superheroines as a fetish, or the many similar fetishes, picked up that kink from material that didn't feature sex at all. Although I could be wrong about that, I mean when I was a growing up there was no porn*, not really, and especially no fetish porn. Then suddenly Internet, and there is ALL PORN. So I dunno.
*I know there's always been porn, but I mean in terms of amount of porn and availability of it. We're talking about an increase in amount of many hundreds of orders of magnitude.
I'd say the difference now is really just technology and variety. But that is true for mainstream TV. When I grew up there was the three network channels, PBS and 1 or two independents.Dogfish wrote:By definition a fetish is really a substitute for sex, so I don't think sex, in the vanilla sense, has to happen at all in a story.Logan wrote:Here's a step further: how important is "sex" in the story? Obviously sexual things need to happen but do you always want it to lead to sex?
I would bet that most people who are into Superheroines as a fetish, or the many similar fetishes, picked up that kink from material that didn't feature sex at all. Although I could be wrong about that, I mean when I was a growing up there was no porn*, not really, and especially no fetish porn. Then suddenly Internet, and there is ALL PORN. So I dunno.
*I know there's always been porn, but I mean in terms of amount of porn and availability of it. We're talking about an increase in amount of many hundreds of orders of magnitude.
Porn was mostly magazines, books and low quality videos. likewise they were nude comics going back to the 50s or earlier. And although there was no actual sex. there was plenty of bondage/domination in Wonder Woman and several other female protagonist comics. And Catwoman did have dominatrix aspects to her character.
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The story is the big part of the equation for me. I really like the story line of how the villain defeats the superheroine and the whole back story of why the villain wants to humiliate and defeat his/her counterpart.drsleepy wrote:Hi All,
How important is story in fetish videos? Do you watch the whole story or do you just fast forward to the fetish elements?
As a consumer I find myself fast forwarding to fetish elements that I enjoy and don't really care about story. As a producer, I'm really trying to emphasize the story elements, but feel the fetish elements need to take center stage.
Like most people Ive seen movies where Ive been left wondering "why?" "how?" when?" and "where?" regarding the so called "plot" Though I very much enjoy the "fetish elements" especially fight scenes, even though we're dealing with fantasy here I like the storyline to have a start, middle and end, and to know who is doing what to whom and why, lol.
SdaisyS wrote:If I see a Superheroine being dominated and losing against a Villainess, it will excites me.
But if I see that there is a relationship of hatred between the two, combined with the fact the Superheroine will have to surrender her Kingdom, Power and Freedom in case of defeat, then this will be even greater.
The story doesn't need to be ultra deep with over 9000 plot twist :
It can be simple, the important thing is to have some build up to appreciate the characters even more.
I'm with you.