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Do you prefer strap-on/dildo or actual flesh for male penetration to the heroine?

Strap-on
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Actual Flesh
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Either, doesn't matter
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I only like G/G Films
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I don't like to see penetration
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So my screenwriters wanted me to ask more clearly and directly to the viewers for some good examples of sexual peril that are not just setups for sex scenes.

Don't be too detailed, they are not looking for scripts or full scenes-- just some things that could happen in a more mature content setting that wouldn't happen in our PG films.

I'm the only one registered on this board (until Vito is approved for Alter Ego Pictures) so it's just gotta go through my threads for the answers. I'll share the replies with my team. Thanks!


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HeroineLegends wrote:So my screenwriters wanted me to ask more clearly and directly to the viewers for some good examples of sexual peril that are not just setups for sex scenes.

Don't be too detailed, they are not looking for scripts or full scenes-- just some things that could happen in a more mature content setting that wouldn't happen in our PG films.

I'm the only one registered on this board (until Vito is approved for Alter Ego Pictures) so it's just gotta go through my threads for the answers. I'll share the replies with my team. Thanks!
I am glad you FINALLY admit your films are PG rated. :w00t:
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I thought I gave you some ideas from your Defeated Heroines post about a week ago. Did you not like the suggestions, or do you want more specific than this? What you did in Canary part 1 was extremely close, just needs to go a step further with some costume destruction / nudity and success on the part of the villain. But there was good suspense in that scene.

- bondage with sexual peril
- costumes ripped/tattered but never completely removed
- partial nudity
- sexual suspense. I think this is the part missing from the directors that are giving us the sexual peril today. They do a couple of minutes of fighting to display the heroine, then she gets captured, and the rest is just a sex vid. You need to play up with the villain telling her what is going to happen to her, see the fear in her face that there is nothing she can do about it.
- forced cooperation. Heroine forced to do things to the villain in order to save somebody etc.
- angry/heroic to the end. Again an aspect that current directors are missing IMO. The heroine should not start to enjoy it at any point. This is the worst thing that the villain could do to her. He wins!
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- forced to dance sexy. Once defeated, a superheroine is forced to perform a sexy dance or model her body for a group of villains or in front of a camera.

- becoming horny via mind control or telekenisis. Villain(s) sexually turn on a superheroine by using mind control or telekenisis. The "hornier" she gets, the more powerless she becomes.

- anal sex to add to the humiliation. Can be simulated by having the heroine moan louder and have more facial expressions.
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All I would ask for is BETTER CHLORO SCENES.I get that you are not "into" the fetish Logan but you would get a lot more of MY money if you got a "chloro consultant"
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PowerGirlFanBoy wrote:- forced to dance sexy. Once defeated, a superheroine is forced to perform a sexy dance or model her body for a group of villains or in front of a camera.
On the quoted idea, I like the situation where a victorious villainess teases a kneeling heroine with a sexy dance. She shows off her legs and hips, smothers her face with her bottom et cetera in order to express her power and dominance. Other than that, I really like a weakened but still standing heroine finished with a knee in her crotch, or a heroine fallen to the ground getting kicked between her legs by the pointy toe of a boot. I guess it qualifies as sexual? :hmmm:

In a scenario involving a heroine weakened by radiation coming from a mineral of some sort, having a villainess drop the said mineral in her panties is pure madness, or a villainess wearing belt or panties with this property. Kind of like a villainess with kryptonite panties. All she has to do is wiggle her butt around is Supergirl writhes in pain.

I'll return with other ideas, if they come to mind.

Edit: on what Rich wrote, chloro with the villainess's panties as the cloth. :yahoo:
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Richpartist wrote:All I would ask for is BETTER CHLORO SCENES.I get that you are not "into" the fetish Logan but you would get a lot more of MY money if you got a "chloro consultant"

sorry man but maybe your concept of "good chloro scene" differs from others. from where I stand his scenes are good because the girls kind of get what the chloro is supposed to be more than just standind there and mmmmfing until it gets tiresome.

If you want them to make something like from Paragon movies....yawwwwn...it might not be happening and I for one hope it doesn't, just my two cents.
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All I can say about chloro scenes is "yawn" LOL! But seriously if you don't think the chloro scene from Transition to Darkness Part 1 is any goBut we like different aspects of th egenre so always going to be different opinions on what i sgreat and what is not.od then my cat makes bird calls to catch his evening snacks.
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I've always liked scenes where a female villainess is turned on by her male partners; either with or without a heroine.

Scenario 1: One female villain and her 2-3 male partners encounter a female heroine. They subdue her but the men start to grope and get physical with her the female villain tells them to stop (she may even be the boss). They keep going and she gets mad and they turn on her and now she and the heroine are at their mercy.

Scenario 2: several villains have just pulled a job, two men and two women. One of the females gloatingly tells the other woman that they decided to cut the money three ways not four and she is cut out. then one of the men corrects her that they decided to cut it two ways not three. the female doesn't understand but then gets what he means and both women are abused before the men take the money and leave laughing.

Side idea: if you want specific characters, I'd love a Deathstroke, Bane, Deadpool versus Batgirl, Robyn, Cat-woman, Black Widow, Hitgirl (or some combination.)
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I just read the joker/face cream gag from the above post. that is truly awesome and twisted. if you could do a version of that it would be great.
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You could have a student enrolling in a henchman college course. The teacher is a retired villaness who is going to "show him the ropes".

Ideas for this scenario include

A lesson on how to properly chloroform a heroine with the teacher as the heroine.

A field trip to the local sawmill for a lecture and personal demonstration of death traps.
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HeroineLegends wrote:So my screenwriters wanted me to ask more clearly and directly to the viewers for some good examples of sexual peril that are not just setups for sex scenes.

Don't be too detailed, they are not looking for scripts or full scenes-- just some things that could happen in a more mature content setting that wouldn't happen in our PG films.

I'm the only one registered on this board (until Vito is approved for Alter Ego Pictures) so it's just gotta go through my threads for the answers. I'll share the replies with my team. Thanks!
I am glad you FINALLY admit your films are PG rated. :w00t:
By this forum's rating system, this community calls them PG films. By any other standard due to sexual situations, language, and violence, they would be considered R-rated. It's taken me quite some time to try to figure out the supposed rating system here, but I found out the other day that you all have a different rating system then the next person. Nudity with sexual peril is X-rated in our language to our cast and crew. You guys continue to call it R-rated. Sorry, but no mainstream film with this content will ever receive an R rating. ;)
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ryorb wrote:I thought I gave you some ideas from your Defeated Heroines post about a week ago. Did you not like the suggestions, or do you want more specific than this? What you did in Canary part 1 was extremely close, just needs to go a step further with some costume destruction / nudity and success on the part of the villain. But there was good suspense in that scene.

- bondage with sexual peril
- costumes ripped/tattered but never completely removed
- partial nudity
- sexual suspense. I think this is the part missing from the directors that are giving us the sexual peril today. They do a couple of minutes of fighting to display the heroine, then she gets captured, and the rest is just a sex vid. You need to play up with the villain telling her what is going to happen to her, see the fear in her face that there is nothing she can do about it.
- forced cooperation. Heroine forced to do things to the villain in order to save somebody etc.
- angry/heroic to the end. Again an aspect that current directors are missing IMO. The heroine should not start to enjoy it at any point. This is the worst thing that the villain could do to her. He wins!
I read it and liked the feedback -- I'm just going to give my screenwriters a link to this thread so all the info is in one place ;)
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Richpartist wrote:All I would ask for is BETTER CHLORO SCENES.I get that you are not "into" the fetish Logan but you would get a lot more of MY money if you got a "chloro consultant"
I don't think you understand that there is a difference between my direction to an actress' and their delivery. We model chloro scenes off of the examples we have been given on the forums. If there's something missing, it's because the fetish has not been explained in enough detail or even simpler, closer examples provided to the exact scenario you want. That still doesn't guarantee we will get that same performance from the actress. We shot a very long Fausta chloro / fondling / simulated sex scene today... We film them as they make sense and with close iteration to the examples provided to us.
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HeroineLegends wrote:
ryorb wrote:I thought I gave you some ideas from your Defeated Heroines post about a week ago. Did you not like the suggestions, or do you want more specific than this? What you did in Canary part 1 was extremely close, just needs to go a step further with some costume destruction / nudity and success on the part of the villain. But there was good suspense in that scene.

- bondage with sexual peril
- costumes ripped/tattered but never completely removed
- partial nudity
- sexual suspense. I think this is the part missing from the directors that are giving us the sexual peril today. They do a couple of minutes of fighting to display the heroine, then she gets captured, and the rest is just a sex vid. You need to play up with the villain telling her what is going to happen to her, see the fear in her face that there is nothing she can do about it.
- forced cooperation. Heroine forced to do things to the villain in order to save somebody etc.
- angry/heroic to the end. Again an aspect that current directors are missing IMO. The heroine should not start to enjoy it at any point. This is the worst thing that the villain could do to her. He wins!
I read it and liked the feedback -- I'm just going to give my screenwriters a link to this thread so all the info is in one place ;)
Can I just add to ryorb's list that the heroine can be angry and heroic to the end, but at some point she must show fear i.e. that she realises that this is her end. Fear can be a great motivator, so it does not have to result in her accepting her fate. I would also second the sexual peril comment. I realise that the genre is heavily influenced by porn, but I appreciate most the stories where the heroine is not consumed by her untamed sexual feelings when a Hitachi is produced. Granted depowering via orgasm has its attractions in a story - "how else can the mighty heroine be humbled?" - but really after all these years, can't we come up with something more original?
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I suggest a Media Mogul Villain/ess in the style of Rupert Murdoch. The character has been campaigning against the heroine for being a "public menace". Now he/she aims to discredit the heroine as a sexual deviant (due to a powerful aphrodisiac) and expose her secret identity to the world.

The story ends with a video shown on the Mogul's channel Foxy News, showing the semi-unmasked heroine performing acts of depravity.
WOW-Girl wrote:Party Plastic Ball's Pool fight and trap the girl half stripped or not between two glass doors or transparent rubber sheets are my initial suggestions.

Slapstick Knockout Fluid Abuse Scenes are something mildly erotic too and easy to be done despite the mess. :laugh:
I like this a lot. Fluid Abuse could be awesome if it's done well with the heroine showing indignant fury at the humiliation. However, it's extremely easy to mess-up. Particularly if the actress can't help giggling or she "breaks character" in some other way at the key moment when the fluid hits her face.

This sort of thing needs to be nailed in one take, as the actress's hair and make-up (and possily her costume) would need to be re-done for retakes.
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Without examples, I wouldn't attempt "fluid abuse" and a few others. If I have a clear understanding of the fetish, then I can create many types of scenes with it. Otherwise, I won't attempt it because I don't want to miss the mark...
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Richpartist wrote:All I would ask for is BETTER CHLORO SCENES.I get that you are not "into" the fetish Logan but you would get a lot more of MY money if you got a "chloro consultant"
I don't think you understand that there is a difference between my direction to an actress' and their delivery. We model chloro scenes off of the examples we have been given on the forums. If there's something missing, it's because the fetish has not been explained in enough detail or even simpler, closer examples provided to the exact scenario you want. That still doesn't guarantee we will get that same performance from the actress. We shot a very long Fausta chloro / fondling / simulated sex scene today... We film them as they make sense and with close iteration to the examples provided to us.
I think your chloro scenes have been very good, specially since Transition to Darkness, you and the girls get what makes sence from the scenes, that is why I keep requesting them in the customs I request from you and hope I can do more into the future.

As far as hot scenes goes, how about AOH with the heroine getting wet with water? I have seen those and.they are hot, you don't need them to lose the outfit at all.
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HeroineLegends wrote:Without examples, I wouldn't attempt "fluid abuse" and a few others. If I have a clear understanding of the fetish, then I can create many types of scenes with it. Otherwise, I won't attempt it because I don't want to miss the mark...
But... Mister H'L, the Candy and Ice Cream factories are begging for this kind of exploitation fetish and the pvc/latex and, some reluctantly, leather fashion costume designers are on this band wagon too ! It might be messy but is safer and more healthy than piss, sperm and, don't forget, shit. Many sectors in the Cooking industries and home made videos eagerly demand to somebody to kickstart this.

Please Sir, bring the messy fetish scenes back to the table all over the girls faces, breasts, asses, thighs, hands and feet, in fact let the girls do the same with the boys too in a matter of fairness !

Is not like somebody else never try that before with less class, charm and competence than your company before.

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Or even DC Comics in their less shitty days.

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The actresses would need to be paid way more to do these types of scenes so I would only do this as a custom that full paid for supplies, actresses, etc

Clean-up alone would require me to hire people and extract the mess.
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HeroineLegends wrote:The actresses would need to be paid way more to do these types of scenes so I would only do this as a custom that full paid for supplies, actresses, etc

Clean-up alone would require me to hire people and extract the mess.
Advertise, sell tickets and people will eventually pay twice for the same content, once live and the second when available for download and you can always ask the girlfriends in the audience to help to clean the mess and add extra footage to be sold as separately downloadable content later. Never forget : Build up the audience expectation and people will eventually come.

How, where and when they will come is a totally private matter to be discussed with their boyfriends and girlfriends at home but tease them and they might be willing to tell how much is their eagerness to pay for the content you might be able to provide.

The guys from steelkittens can share some insights. :thumbup: :thumbup:

http://www.superheroineforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=22703
I would never invite an audience to watch us film... And definitely not make it a live event. That would cost more than the filming itself.
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The actresses would need to be paid way more to do these types of scenes so I would only do this as a custom that full paid for supplies, actresses, etc

Clean-up alone would require me to hire people and extract the mess.

Nahh. We used to do mud wrestle all the time. Real easy to do. That or baby oil or jello. Only problem we had was we had to run the heat real high cause the girls would be freezing. But clean up is easy if your place has a shower or just a hose. You buy one of those plastic kiddie pools and put plastic sheets down then just ball the whole thing up and toss it. In fact we did one video that was paint.
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The actresses would need to be paid way more to do these types of scenes so I would only do this as a custom that full paid for supplies, actresses, etc

Clean-up alone would require me to hire people and extract the mess.

Nahh. We used to do mud wrestle all the time. Real easy to do. That or baby oil or jello. Only problem we had was we had to run the heat real high cause the girls would be freezing. But clean up is easy if your place has a shower or just a hose. You buy one of those plastic kiddie pools and put plastic sheets down then just ball the whole thing up and toss it. In fact we did one video that was paint.
We don't have a hose in our place so it would be a lot of mopping, etc... I haven't had a really big request for this other than one or two people also. If I get more of a demand, I might consider it, but it's a lot to invest in for a small amount of sales... High risk of loss...
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It is messy I agree and mostly the girls will complain its real cold. Now one idea we did in the past was a pastry food fight. Have the heroine fight someone say next to a table of pies and they get all smeared up. If you had a clown villain that would work good. And a lot of the pies can just be pudding in a pie tin with whip cream.
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Richpartist wrote:All I would ask for is BETTER CHLORO SCENES.I get that you are not "into" the fetish Logan but you would get a lot more of MY money if you got a "chloro consultant"

sorry man but maybe your concept of "good chloro scene" differs from others. from where I stand his scenes are good because the girls kind of get what the chloro is supposed to be more than just standind there and mmmmfing until it gets tiresome.

If you want them to make something like from Paragon movies....yawwwwn...it might not be happening and I for one hope it doesn't, just my two cents.
There's a huge difference in quality between a producer who "gets' the fetish and one who obviously doesn't and is just throwing it in there because that's what people want. Chloro is used a lot it seems but most times not very well. Can't tell you how often I've purchased a video that promised a chloro scene and it was just rubbish. I believe this is due to the producer simply not having the fetish. Paragon specialized in it and his stuff is hands down the best.
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Richpartist wrote:All I would ask for is BETTER CHLORO SCENES.I get that you are not "into" the fetish Logan but you would get a lot more of MY money if you got a "chloro consultant"

sorry man but maybe your concept of "good chloro scene" differs from others. from where I stand his scenes are good because the girls kind of get what the chloro is supposed to be more than just standind there and mmmmfing until it gets tiresome.

If you want them to make something like from Paragon movies....yawwwwn...it might not be happening and I for one hope it doesn't, just my two cents.
There's a huge difference in quality between a producer who "gets' the fetish and one who obviously doesn't and is just throwing it in there because that's what people want. Chloro is used a lot it seems but most times not very well. Can't tell you how often I've purchased a video that promised a chloro scene and it was just rubbish. I believe this is due to the producer simply not having the fetish. Paragon specialized in it and his stuff is hands down the best.
Well I think I disagree with you there, I don't like most of Paragon's scenes but that is maybe just personal choice, some times is just too long and some others it seems and some others seems like what is Koing the girl bu rubbing their breast and not by the ko itself.

I am not burying the concept of the people at Paragon but is not something I don't like because of what I said above.

Like I said, I like HL scenes better because in the end the scenes are good, same with Next Global Crisis choro scenes, wich are not that frequent but still good.
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HeroineLegends wrote:I would never invite an audience to watch us film... And definitely not make it a live event. That would cost more than the filming itself. We don't have a hose in our place so it would be a lot of mopping, etc... I haven't had a really big request for this other than one or two people also. If I get more of a demand, I might consider it, but it's a lot to invest in for a small amount of sales... High risk of loss...
That's why people are never invited to watch wrestling events for free, you sold tickets for that. As far as you expose Sir the only thing missing is the infrastructure for said event. Like i repeatedly said like a broken record : "Build and People will come !" Apple didn't build it self outside of the garage without a lot of effort and investiment as well talent or at least a ruthless genius able to handle it.
I think you're missing the point here - I would never make a live event of a filming ;)
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Agree the live event seems dumb. The insurance on that alone would be more than the entire budget of the film. I think people need to separate their imagination from how things work in the real world; there are certain things actresses aren't going to do and certain things that are simply off limits as far as filming goes (line live events.)
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Well I think I disagree with you there, I don't like most of Paragon's scenes but that is maybe just personal choice, some times is just too long and some others it seems and some others seems like what is Koing the girl bu rubbing their breast and not by the ko itself.

I am not burying the concept of the people at Paragon but is not something I don't like because of what I said above.

Like I said, I like HL scenes better because in the end the scenes are good, same with Next Global Crisis choro scenes, wich are not that frequent but still good.
It doesn't sound like you get what Paragon does, or did. Chloro and fondling, just keeping the girl groggy or out while they fondle and tie her up. If that's your bag then they're you're guys. But if you aren't really into chloro, well then no.
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Well I think I disagree with you there, I don't like most of Paragon's scenes but that is maybe just personal choice, some times is just too long and some others it seems and some others seems like what is Koing the girl bu rubbing their breast and not by the ko itself.

I am not burying the concept of the people at Paragon but is not something I don't like because of what I said above.

Like I said, I like HL scenes better because in the end the scenes are good, same with Next Global Crisis choro scenes, wich are not that frequent but still good.
It doesn't sound like you get what Paragon does, or did. Chloro and fondling, just keeping the girl groggy or out while they fondle and tie her up. If that's your bag then they're you're guys. But if you aren't really into chloro, well then no.
I am into chloro, actually love it, but not really into fondling, and sorry man, but like I said, for me it looks like the fondling does the job, not the chloro.

And we are not going to discuss who is a bigger fan than the other because we like different sides of the fetish, and that doesn't make a "real" chloro fan anymore than me and the same goes the other way, I am not a bigger fan than you are either.
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maar13 wrote:And we are not going to discuss who is a bigger fan than the other because we like different sides of the fetish, and that doesn't make a "real" chloro fan anymore than me and the same goes the other way, I am not a bigger fan than you are either.
Like every other aspect of every other fetish. No wonder producers lose their minds trying to find the middle ground and why so many customers end up unhappy.
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drh1966 wrote: Like every other aspect of every other fetish. No wonder producers lose their minds trying to find the middle ground and why so many customers end up unhappy.
Indeed. For every unmasking fetishist who wants the heroine conscious and aware, there's someone else who finds it sexier if she's KO'ed before the unmasking.

As for WOW-Girl's "Fluid Abuse" suggestion, I really liked the original example of a heroine suddenly being sprayed in the face. (Although the shot would obviously need to be nailed in the first take.) Escalating that to full "Messy Wrestling" matches sounds awful, though.

It would be very difficult to do something like that within a narrative framework. It sounds more like an improvised "girls having fun" format, rather than a peril.
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Recently GIGA produced a WW-type heroine beat-down, filmed outdoors in a muddy quarry. She ends up dead still costumed but with everything ripped apart, in a muddy puddle. I've only seen their samples but the final shots look both sexy and convincing. It doesn't always have to be simply about messing the heroine.
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Wow! A self-confessed pirater! Way to support the genre!
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PowerGirlFanBoy wrote:Wow! A self-confessed pirater! Way to support the genre!
I was going to say something about that... then I bit my tongue... or typing fingers... but yes-- seeing that post definitely made me think the same thing. This niche is not THAT big to have to worry about pirated videos (I'm always dealing with DCMA Takedown Notices)-- we all want to continue to film these and my actresses love to film them-- but if they are being pirated, it's going to make it hard to keep doing it... :)
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The pirating issue has been a concern for me as a buyer. In essence, buying videos is like retroactive crowd funding. Playing the role of amateur businessman, I would think that without paying for the videos, the retroactive crowd funding goes away and producers are dissuaded from producing more videos. Consequently, we suffer for the reduction in video options, and producers who took chances in making super heroine videos go away.
I'm perfectly happy paying for every video I've bought, even the ones that underwhelmed me, as most of them have been up to par or better. And the payment for sub-par videos is like supporting a fledgling company as they learn the skills to improve their craft.
Sorry for the brief rant; I just want to keep this genre going and producers motivated to keep doing more of the amazing work they've been doing.
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New idea: super heroine is placed in sexual peril by a pirate-themed villain and his/her gang. Said villain mostly deals in the modern, Internet sense of piracy, but still insists on dressing and acting like a 17th century sea dog. :laugh:

You could make the heroine walk the plank, or tie her to the mast and give her a taste of the whip.

For extra points, conclude it with the heroine breaking free, laying the mother of all beatdowns on the villain, and delivering a long, cheesy "piracy doesn't pay!" speech to the fourth wall.
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Our superheroine is enraged to discover that Axel Gillette is making a "porn parody" movie about her. She storms down to the set to shut-down production, but soon realizes it was a ruse to lure her into appearing in the ultimate superheroine snuff movie...
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Going to book out some girls for next weekend to shoot… Give me idea scenarios that are fetish-oriented rather than combat and we can act them out :)

F/F please
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Recycling ideas I've posted before, but one situation which could fit into the sexual tension bracket mentioned above is to have the heroine strapped spread eagled on a table, with a "laser" advancing slowly upwards between her legs a la James Bond in Goldfinger. However when the laser reaches her groin, it isn't the searing pain of being sliced in half she feels, but overwhelming pleasure designed to drive her to a fatal orgasm. If you used a Supergirl style character, you could also suspend two lights above her breasts with green bulbs. These are linked to strain sensors in her restraints, so that if she tried to use her strength to free herself, the lights switch on bathing her chest in a strange, strength sapping, painful green glow.
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Always loved doing the classic Batman ko scenes but using women of course:)
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Logan. You ask the same questions over and over again, in different threads. The members of this forum have given you heaps of information about what they want to see. All you have to do is read the threads. I am not going to allow any more "What would you like to see" threads from you in the public forums. You can do it all day long in the Heroine Legends section.
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admin wrote:Logan. You ask the same questions over and over again, in different threads. The members of this forum have given you heaps of information about what they want to see. All you have to do is read the threads. I am not going to allow any more "What would you like to see" threads from you in the public forums. You can do it all day long in the Heroine Legends section.
This is a different question... When asking for a PG project, I get PG answers-- this is a part of the genre that is new to me on the X side and I don't know specifics to the X-rated part until I ask... Not asking about peril and scenes-- asking about sexual situations-- which wouldn't apply to Heroine Legends because that project is PG-- so I wouldn't want to ask there...

I also used an existing thread so it would be all in one place.
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admin wrote:Logan. You ask the same questions over and over again, in different threads. The members of this forum have given you heaps of information about what they want to see. All you have to do is read the threads. I am not going to allow any more "What would you like to see" threads from you in the public forums. You can do it all day long in the Heroine Legends section.
Plus can I add I am tired of someone who says they don't make fetish material who then asks specifically for fetish ideas but then insists that they are not making fetish material. Its odd/creepy to me. Sounds like a little entryism.
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admin wrote:Logan. You ask the same questions over and over again, in different threads. The members of this forum have given you heaps of information about what they want to see. All you have to do is read the threads. I am not going to allow any more "What would you like to see" threads from you in the public forums. You can do it all day long in the Heroine Legends section.
Plus can I add I am tired of someone who says they don't make fetish material who then asks specifically for fetish ideas but then insists that they are not making fetish material. Its odd/creepy to me. Sounds like a little entryism.
Defeated Heroines is clearly fetish. My mainstream content is not though people with fetishes can enjoy it. I'm asking for ideas for Defeated Heroines. Fetish ideas.
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admin wrote:Logan. You ask the same questions over and over again, in different threads. The members of this forum have given you heaps of information about what they want to see. All you have to do is read the threads. I am not going to allow any more "What would you like to see" threads from you in the public forums. You can do it all day long in the Heroine Legends section.
This is a different question... When asking for a PG project, I get PG answers-- this is a part of the genre that is new to me on the X side and I don't know specifics to the X-rated part until I ask... Not asking about peril and scenes-- asking about sexual situations-- which wouldn't apply to Heroine Legends because that project is PG-- so I wouldn't want to ask there...

I also used an existing thread so it would be all in one place.
Except you've asked the same question about adult/fetish content recently:
http://superheroineforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=23052

And here:
http://superheroineforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=22454

Another one:
http://superheroineforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=22774

And another:
http://superheroineforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=22916

Here's one you posted on behalf of your associate:
http://superheroineforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23066

And that's just from a cursory search of recent threads. There's almost certainly more. (Including the locked "Various Fetishes Explained" thread, which was basically the same "What do you want to see?" question rephrased.)

Here's a merged mega-thread of early discussions on Defeated Heroines:
http://superheroineforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=20693

I love this piece of COMEDY GOLD in the mega-thread:
Logan wrote: I would like to see this site succeed, so I'm asking that if anyone is interested, to please visit the site and donate a little to help him get his 1st video out! After that, he will be able to take the sales to fund further films. Now, as a thank you, if you contribute $100 or more, you will get the 1st video for free when it releases 2 days before everyone else!!
A "free" video if I donate $100? That sounds like a great offer! :D
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Don't know about all that but after seeing great performances by her, I think you should try getting Alli Rae for your Defeated Heroines website. I've seen her now in three movies and she stole the show every time. Great model for the genre!
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Free was the wrong word to use. And why would you pull up a thread that is over a year old and has to do with someone else? I took over the DH site... Back then it wasn't 100% mine. I get the point about the question but find it funny that on the main page, there are 4 other producers asking the same question.
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Logan wrote:Free was the wrong word to use. And why would you pull up a thread that is over a year old and has to do with someone else? I took over the DH site... Back then it wasn't 100% mine. I get the point about the question but find it funny that on the main page, there are 4 other producers asking the same question.

I don't care if a producer asks for ideas. Be my guest. Generate excitement for your products. I think every producer should do that. Get people involved and excited.

Its this weird "I don't make fetish material BTW give me fetish ideas" thing you do that bothers me. The problem is people give you ideas and you say "Oh that's not this studio its some other studio" and its confusing. Your naming of studios isn't very intuitive. When you ask for fetish related ideas you're gonna get "hey take their tops off" or "climax them with a hitachi wand" ideas. Turning around and saying "oh that's not this studio" is confusing ESPECIALLY if your asking for ideas. "fetish" pretty much opens the can of worms.

I personally don't know how you are asking for fetish ideas in your heroine combat studio when you clearly are not making fetish material for that studio. Its basically just fighting isn't it?

Your requests just seem odd and confusing and especially your fetish denial.
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Logan wrote:Free was the wrong word to use. And why would you pull up a thread that is over a year old and has to do with someone else? I took over the DH site... Back then it wasn't 100% mine. I get the point about the question but find it funny that on the main page, there are 4 other producers asking the same question.

I don't care if a producer asks for ideas. Be my guest. Generate excitement for your products. I think every producer should do that. Get people involved and excited.

Its this weird "I don't make fetish material BTW give me fetish ideas" thing you do that bothers me. The problem is people give you ideas and you say "Oh that's not this studio its some other studio" and its confusing. Your naming of studios isn't very intuitive. When you ask for fetish related ideas you're gonna get "hey take their tops off" or "climax them with a hitachi wand" ideas. Turning around and saying "oh that's not this studio" is confusing ESPECIALLY if your asking for ideas. "fetish" pretty much opens the can of worms.

I personally don't know how you are asking for fetish ideas in your heroine combat studio when you clearly are not making fetish material for that studio. Its basically just fighting isn't it?

Your requests just seem odd and confusing and especially your fetish denial.
Just as you said-- Heroine Kombat (which is one series from one company) is mainly fighting-- when I ask for ideas for that series, I'm not asking for fetishes. I'm asking for what viewers enjoy seeing. For some viewers, those things ARE fetishes, but they don't have to be for everyone. Cross the Line is my mainstream, PG company. We don't produce anything that can't be shown to anyone. And we have shown theSuperheroines.com project which features Heroine Legends, Heroine Kombat, Shadowgirl, The Protectors, Infinity, etc to many people who have nothing to do with any type of fetish. That being said, almost every Heroine Kombat video is a custom order. That means there are things that are wanting to be seen in that series that may or may not be fetish-- but again, as you said, it's just a series of combat films. Certain moves are asked for and that is where the custom orders come in. I don't personally care if it is a fetish for someone-- that's up to the viewer/buyer. But when we place that element into a film and it is shot like a mainstream film, edited like one, and the actresses know all about the process and include what is being requested into the film where it makes sense to be, then you can argue all day long that it is fetish, but the intention is to make it sexy and risqué, not fetish.

On the other hand, I have Rapture Entertainment, which is a completely different company. Different actresses, different crew, different purpose. That company is an adult entertainment company. I make FETISH videos for that company. Defeated Heroines is one of those. I have a few other sites that are in pre-production which are geared toward foot fetish, sleepy fetish, hypnotism, and other blatant fetishes. When I ask for feedback there, I am asking for unique ideas on new ways to incorporate those fetishes into a mini-story for a video. I can look up things about fetishes all day long-- but many people here have very specific tastes when it comes to specific fetishes (angles, shot types, actress reactions) - and that is what I ask about because it allows me to make a better video to enjoy.

The superheroine genre crosses over between PG & R or X-- I differentiate them easily. It just amazes me how upset people on this board are getting because they want to tell me that Heroine Kombat, the project itself (just to name one), is fetish, without a doubt. Honestly, I don't care to talk about it any further-- I know what the intentions of the projects are and I know I cater to fetishists. But that's a fine line I chose to stay on-- on the other hand, I have a site which is clearly fetish but no one wants to acknowledge that there is a difference. And maybe to you there isn't. Again, there is no reason for debate-- it's all superheroine and that's why we're here. ;)
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But that's a fine line I chose to stay on-- on the other hand, I have a site which is clearly fetish but no one wants to acknowledge that there is a difference. And maybe to you there isn't. Again, there is no reason for debate-- it's all superheroine and that's why we're here.
The customer is NEVER wrong. If they are confused YOU MADE THEM CONFUSED. The reason people aren't getting it is cause YOU failed to get that distinction across.

Basically they are seeing the exact same stuff on both the fetish and combat sites except one shows breasts and the other does not. YOU JUST HAD TIFFANY CHASE GO NUDE. How is that NOT confusing. Hot chics fighting on Heroine Kombat. Hot chics fighting on Rapture.... WHAT exactly is the difference? In fact I would imagine you have customers watching Heroine Kombat thinking girls will go topless. Plus you shoot on EXACTLY THE SAME SET. The exact same fighting on both sites. The same bad guys. And then you're tossing fetish elements into Heroine Kombat UP TO but not including nudity. You tie girls up on both sites. KO them... Geez no wonder people are confused. So what exactly is the difference between a Heroine Kombat KO and a Rapture KO?

If your customers are confused then you failed to make things clear. Never assume the customer is wrong.
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