PG-13 vs X-Rated Peril

[lemonpsi]

It's a small sample size though, and forums like this one and even more so Heroinemovies.com...are underrepresented by fans of X-rated material, IMO.

Agreed. Either that or fans of R/X rated material are not as vocal.

[niko999]

R/X but not *just* R/X i.e. it still needs the story element / buildup part as a foundation.

[TIEnTEEZ]

Are forced orgasm X or R? I went with R, 'cause it says toys.

[niko999]

The thing is what is peril? It's the heroine being defeated or in the process of possibly being defeated by the villains. X or R rated peril is really just a way of having a non-fatal defeat and once you get that then it can be extended to a PG-13 version anyway.

If the superheroine becomes the villainess' sex pet with a collar that blocks her super powers then her crime-fighting days are over and she is no longer a threat to the villainess i.e. defeated, and a more evil defeat as it is ongoing (although ideally for me she'd escape eventually and the the process would repeat with the next villainess) but you could have the same basic plot idea where instead of being turned into a sex pet she is collared and turned into a henchwoman (with a henchwoman uniforn) or a maid to clean the villainess' lair.

It's basically the same idea.

[DefeatedHeroines]

The thing is what is peril? It's the heroine being defeated or in the process of possibly being defeated by the villains. X or R rated peril is really just a way of having a non-fatal defeat and once you get that then it can be extended to a PG-13 version anyway.

If the superheroine becomes the villainess' sex pet with a collar that blocks her super powers then her crime-fighting days are over and she is no longer a threat to the villainess i.e. defeated, and a more evil defeat as it is ongoing (although ideally for me she'd escape eventually and the the process would repeat with the next villainess) but you could have the same basic plot idea where instead of being turned into a sex pet she is collared and turned into a henchwoman (with a henchwoman uniforn) or a maid to clean the villainess' lair.

It's basically the same idea.

Hmmm… I guess what I'm really asking is more along the lines of do you buy more Superheroine films that feature nudity and sex or more that keep the clothes on or only partially removed, not revealing anything?

[rizoboy]

hey Defeated Heroines,

I just saw the teaser pics to your latest release. My input on the hardcore scenes is I don't like to see the sex part of them, but I do enjoy the nudity.

A suggestion for the future: Many times we see the villain fondle the heroine's breasts when they are revealed, but what I like to see is the villain pound on the heroine's bare breasts too. Just a suggestion.

[TIEnTEEZ]

It's a tough question because there are so many different things that fall into the two categories.

Personally, nudity doesn't really do anything for me. I think clothing is sexier and superheroine clothing is the sexiest. Once you take a superheroine and strip off her costume, is she still a superheroine? Maybe. But I'd rather she keep at least part of the costume on.

For me, the turn on is all about power - the villain has it, the superheroine doesn't. Everything else is just a way to emphasize that. When the villain does something to the heroine (whether it be groping, torture, forced orgasms, etc.) and the heroine can't stop her, that emphasizes her helplessness. When the heroine struggles against her bonds and fails to escape, she shows how powerless she is.

Beyond that, I don't really care about nudity or penetration or whether what happens is rated X. I do love forced orgasm scenes, though. So if those are rated X, then I want 'em.

[niko999]

The thing is what is peril? It's the heroine being defeated or in the process of possibly being defeated by the villains. X or R rated peril is really just a way of having a non-fatal defeat and once you get that then it can be extended to a PG-13 version anyway.

If the superheroine becomes the villainess' sex pet with a collar that blocks her super powers then her crime-fighting days are over and she is no longer a threat to the villainess i.e. defeated, and a more evil defeat as it is ongoing (although ideally for me she'd escape eventually and the the process would repeat with the next villainess) but you could have the same basic plot idea where instead of being turned into a sex pet she is collared and turned into a henchwoman (with a henchwoman uniforn) or a maid to clean the villainess' lair.

It's basically the same idea.

Hmmm… I guess what I'm really asking is more along the lines of do you buy more Superheroine films that feature nudity and sex or more that keep the clothes on or only partially removed, not revealing anything?

I like the superheroine thing both as a thing in itself and as a more fun version of porn so definitely nudity/sex but over the years i've also bought lots of very campy, cheesy movies that you could watch with a girlfriend because the sex was mostly just in the outfits and/or very campy hints - think Barbarella type movies.

So I was thinking if it was done as a *series* of 10 minute segments with recurring characters and in a deliberately campy/cheesy style like those 60s shows with lots of sexy outfits but otherwise the sex mostly hinted at it might be possible to create a PG13 type show that you could watch with a girlfriend.

That would be a whole different market.

[Leadpoison]

Hey guys, I'm new around here and have been lurking for awhile. The people seem really friendly here, though! My favorite is X-Rated heroine peril but it seems like there's SO little of it. Usually if it's X, it's vanilla porn. If there's peril, it's very rarely X/XXX.

I love it all, but there's so little hardcore peril available.

[TIEnTEEZ]

Hey guys, I'm new around here and have been lurking for awhile. The people seem really friendly here, though! My favorite is X-Rated heroine peril but it seems like there's SO little of it. Usually if it's X, it's vanilla porn. If there's peril, it's very rarely X/XXX.

I love it all, but there's so little hardcore peril available.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think it has to do with cost. From what I understand (and I am certainly no expert), models charge more for doing hardcore scenes.

Super-heroine video are already more expensive, anyway, because of the costumes, props, sets, and sometimes special effects.

And then on top of that, it's a niche market with relatively few customers.

If you have the money, you can always order a custom video.

[chickkimmel]

I prefer lots of peril and some nudity coming near the end of the video. The key is that the herione should be defeated. I like it when the herione goes down swinging....kind of like Christina Carter's recent WW vids. Agressive, bad ass, then taken down a notch or ten.

I like a hard "R" film, by the way.

[Jeff Spangler]

My favorites are the ones where the heroine costume is shredded but still covering all her lady parts:) as far as the peril, I love when the heroine is defiant till the end but eventually realizes she can't win and submits to the villain with hopes of an opening for freedom down the road. I like the thought of sexual peril without actually seeing it. Kind of like how we didn't really know what Jabba did to Princess Leia. But I have a good idea!

[Leadpoison]

My favorites are the ones where the heroine costume is shredded but still covering all her lady parts:) as far as the peril, I love when the heroine is defiant till the end but eventually realizes she can't win and submits to the villain with hopes of an opening for freedom down the road. I like the thought of sexual peril without actually seeing it. Kind of like how we didn't really know what Jabba did to Princess Leia. But I have a good idea!

Definitely a valid opinion and of course I like to leave that to my imagination when watching the actual source material, but when we're talking about fetish movies based on characters, I figure why not push it to the next level?

[redmanx]

I enjoy fighting, with the heroine losing against a stronger villain or by weight of numbers; I prefer superheroines to retain their powers, I love their surprise when they come up against a villain stronger than themselves. Sex is good, but not if the heroine is enjoying it, lol. I prefer to see her beaten, restrained, abused and worn down by force and sex.

[d00lin]

This is for DefeatedHeroines and/or Heroine Legends --

I just read on another post that DH may not produce more videos. This is a shame! This site has/had a lot of potential, but there is one thing that I feel like is missing, and that is KO's/extended shots of the heroine knocked out or defeated. I would be buying each and every video if they had 2 or more KO's per video, where the heroine can really sell it.

In the Onyx-Amoeba video, the part where he has her in a head grip, it would have been awesome if she just went limp with her mouth wide open. Whether it's PG-13 or X, it's important the way that the heroine sells the KO's, just in my opinion, but I'm sure there are others that possibly share it.

[Richpartist]

This is for DefeatedHeroines and/or Heroine Legends --

I just read on another post that DH may not produce more videos. This is a shame! This site has/had a lot of potential, but there is one thing that I feel like is missing, and that is KO's/extended shots of the heroine knocked out or defeated. I would be buying each and every video if they had 2 or more KO's per video, where the heroine can really sell it.

In the Onyx-Amoeba video, the part where he has her in a head grip, it would have been awesome if she just went limp with her mouth wide open. Whether it's PG-13 or X, it's important the way that the heroine sells the KO's, just in my opinion, but I'm sure there are others that possibly share it.

I'd like to 2nd that More ko's not less!