Why Yvonne Craig don`t talk about erotic in the show.

[DevilMan38]

Anyone who has talked to Yvonne Craig for longer than five minutes can draw their own conclusions as to whether she found any of this sexy.

That's why they call it acting

[Mr. X]

One of the biggest problems with comic geeks and nerds is that they take the wish fulfillment portion TOO far. They see 'obvious' patterns of suggestive like-minded behavior where none really exists. They suffer from the worst parts of apophenia.

I think the same thing probably happens to the two guys from Twilight.

[cdrei]

One of the biggest problems with comic geeks and nerds is that they take the wish fulfillment portion TOO far. They see 'obvious' patterns of suggestive like-minded behavior where none really exists. They suffer from the worst parts of apophenia. Anyone who has talked to Yvonne Craig for longer than five minutes can draw their own conclusions as to whether she found any of this sexy. Someone needs to write out a reality check for these conspiracy people. Truly.

I've fallen prey to that in the past. It's easy to do.

Where my argument falls down - slightly - is in that a real person's public image can itself be a carefully-tailored fiction. Autobiography can be a way of controlling the perception of history. But Yvonne seems to be very consistent in the things she says and does, across the years, and she seems to be honest and quite open about many things. And if we begin to discount the available evidence, we're back to filling gaps with pure speculation. The "conspiracy people" are talking about another fictional character, perhaps, named Yvonne Craig, with no relation to the real person. I could be, too, but if I carry that thought too far, I go all epistemological and ontological and begin doubting that anything is real, or that any of it is knowable. Hello solipsism, my old friend.

Perhaps the correct response to me today is, "Dude, chill out and stop drinking coffee in front of the internet. Go take a walk or something." Prob'ly I'm babbling. Apologies for that....

[sneakly]

Just came across this thread and thought I would add my 2 cent.

There is a difference between knowing a character/ costume is sexy and feeling sexy in it. Craig did look sexy and she played hot women a lot, mostly because she was HOT. She had a dancer's body and that was part of why she was cast. She could do fight scenes that looked more like dance than violence.

When fans ask her about the eroticism of a the part, that is like asking an actor if he got wood doing a scene with Angelina Jolie. He might have, but is the question appropriate?

As to whether she felt turned on doing Batgirl, my guess is probably not. A lot of actresses do girl-girl porn so they don't have to have vaginal sex with men, not that they are into girls. A lot of bondage models do bondage because they get paid a premium porn quantity of money but can keep their clothes on and not have sex. Same thing goes for stripping. They get naked and slither all over guys to make a buck, but most of them are not getting hot and bothered by you ogling them.

I am sure she knew she was titillating male viewers, that was what they hired her for. But that doesn't mean she needs to hear about our objectification of her. Polite interest in career is probably welcome, perhaps even mentioning an early crush, but I can see why she doesn't want to hear from a thinly veiled fetish site asking her for interviews or having people going through her trash.

Lets enjoy her legacy, but it a character she played 40+ years, not really her.

[Femina]

I'm not trying to dominate or derail this thread. I probably wouldn't have as much to say, if we were discussing the characters, here. Batgirl is a fictional character, who lives in our imaginations and can be anything we want. Yvonne Craig portrayed Batgirl as a job, for one year of her life, and is a real person. A real person is a fact, existing outside of our heads, and is not composed of imagination. Facts don't reflect our subjective impressions of them, don't magically transform because of our interpretations or wish fulfillment.

One of the biggest problems with comic geeks and nerds is that they take the wish fulfillment portion TOO far. They see 'obvious' patterns of suggestive like-minded behavior where none really exists. They suffer from the worst parts of apophenia. Anyone who has talked to Yvonne Craig for longer than five minutes can draw their own conclusions as to whether she found any of this sexy. Someone needs to write out a reality check for these conspiracy people. Truly.

This. I can enjoy the erotica of all this. Superheroines and comic-style heroine/occasional hero peril is my fetish. It is most of your fetish as well... but it is a fetish. A term defined by its niche following. Craig read for the part just as everyone else who considered it did. She played the part and when it was done she hung up the costume (or maybe Burt stole it I guess... what a jerk move if he did)

Perhaps there is some part of her that did recognize that, but more likely she was indifferent to it. No matter how much we should like for one thing or another to be the truth we do not really have the right to expect our fetish of other people, even those who have willingly or unwittingly participated in it. There's certainly no reason to be 'infuriated' by Yvone's ignorance of the subject. To be annoyed about that sort of thing is sort of like a soldier being pissed at a pacifist for not wanting to kill someone (or vice versa) or a corporation being annoyed with a mom and pop store that struggles to sell something similar to their product on one shelf of their store. It's not quite logical.