Sasha Calle as DCEU's Supergirl

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What about the men being fan service?
I think people see what they want to see.

First Supergirl is a DC property, so if you want to discuss how she is being portrayed - you can't use Marvel as an example of desexualization. And if the conversation is about choices DC is making in how they portray women - I think you'd also have to put on some pretty big blindfolds to ignore how Harley Quinn was hyper sexualized in Suicide Squad, especially with her striptease scenes in that first film that were completely unnecessary.

I think you also have to put on some pretty big blindfolds to ignore the quantity of sexualization.

Like make a tally of how many times Supergirl wore a skirt vs not. She was on TV for 6 Seasons in her recent depiction. 126 Episodes. I won't even bother tallying up crossovers. Season 5 Episode 1 she gets a full bodysuit. So here are the numbers

Skirt: 87 Episodes
Full Bodysuit: 39 Episodes

The Flash movie is also about a 'multiverse' so to speak. For reference... it has multiple Flashes and multiple Batmans... and one Supergirl we know of. If the debate is how they are desexualizing supergirl then you'd have to pretend they planned on continuing with this Supergirl permanently.

I am guessing most of us here know that James Gunn took over the DC Film projects and effectively ended the Snyder verse, which would mean - this is probably the only time we are seeing THIS version of Supergirl.

HELL James Gunn has even announced SUPERGIRL IS GETTING HER OWN MOVIE AND IT ISN'T THE ONE FROM THE FLASH FILM

So what is this conversation really about? That Thor showed some ass in his last film?

Or that a lot of guys here can't handle 40 Depictions of Supergirl in a bodysuit VS 88 depictions of her in a skirt. (Not including cross over episodes)

Whats even more wild is a bunch of people who are angry about the new Flash Supergirl probably didn't even like the TV Supergirl when it came out. Because maybe I am wrong but I remember the black pantyhose being very frowned upon. I am not eager enough to search through the old comment threads here regarding that situation, but I think people are just looking for a reason to be angry.

Considering that the Batgirl film got dusted - I personally think we should all have a moment of gratitude and just be happy we will be able to have the choice to see the Flash movie. Because it could have simply taken a similar route especially considering its lead actor went nuts and did everything in his power to end his career publicly
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This is your site? Yes? Can we look at the kinds of girls you use in your content?

WDo people buy your stuff cause the women are "strong willed" and not sex objects? Not sure what is the harm in asking for the same amount of female fan service that DCU and MCU put out with their men.
I think you missed my early post when I stated - leave your fetish to porn vs Hollywood. Here is the quote from my OG post "Why not satisfy your sexuality through porn? It’s not like there isn’t enough of it. "

I make fetish porn. If I was making a Hollywood movie - it definitely wouldn't have rape scenes
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Near as I can tell, the Supergirl in this movie is in an alternate universe but facing off against Zod, as in Man of Steel. So they have this alternate universe Supergirl resemble the Cavill Superman to force home the similarity to Man of Steel, but also highlight the alternate universe aspect by having "Superman" be a woman. I really don't see the problem. She's attractive, she looks good in the suit and it all makes sense, plot-wise.
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At this point, it seems silly not to simply withhold judgement until the movie comes out and see if the actress is good in her role or not. She's an alternate reality Supergirl. Let's just see how they handle it and hope for the best.
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Also sidenote

And this really needs to be said... its long past due...


Whatever Hollywood executive allowed this to happen...
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Should be tar and feathered

Look at that hair? That costume? Why isn't she in a skirt!
What in the hell were they thinking!
I couldn't even cum!

The 80s were a mess!
Again, you are strawmanning (i.e. providing an argumentative distraction).
Ripley was always meant to be a hard-assed second-wave feminist hero. Her origins go all the way back to 1970s fare like the short film
"Xenogenesis" which James Cameron made in 1978, where a woman operates a mech-suit on a spaceship. It's about a woman being able to do the same things a man can do: that's second-wave feminism. There's even a song about it in "Annie Get Your Gun". I'm all about it.

Ripley was not meant to be beautiful, nor is she a spandex-clad superheroine. She was meant to get the job done and be a new kind of action hero.
Mentioning the likes of Ripley and Sarah O'Connor in terms of the fact that there *were* plenty of strong female characters in the Bronze Age is relevant to quash complaints from whiners like Elizabeth Banks or Jennifer Lawrence.
But mentioning them in terms of spandex-clad fantasy superheroines is definitely not. Hence, strawman.

It's perfectly OK, SHL, if you think Sasha Calle looks hot in the full-body costume and with the non-binary hairstyle. I'm sure some will agree.
But it's not what Supergirl has looked like for the past 50 years. It has very little resemblance to the art of Jose Luis Garcia Lopez which has been on everyone's lunchboxes, T-shirts and Underoos for most of that time. That's the point we're trying to make. Try something new? Sure. Agenda behind it, though? Yes, indeed.

(Also, I think it's ironic that we're talking about this over here, while over on HM, everyone's celebrating the 10th anniversary of The Rye's Doomsday, which features the perfect classic Supergirl costume that everyone knows, and which Melissa Benoist's costume for the first few seasons was very close to).
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Heh. I guess they missed in Alien when we get a visual of Sigourney in a VERY tight white t-shirt and panties as she crawls into that cryogenesis chamber in the escape pod?

As for a Supergirl in a bodysuit, it might be fine if it's a smooth, sleek design. Heck! They pulled that off in 1971.
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Smooth, simple, and showing off her attributes in a nice way IMHO.
The material they used for her bodysuit in the TV show was sooo bad. :weep:

My 2 cents.

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SHL wrote:
1 year ago
Also sidenote

And this really needs to be said... its long past due...


Whatever Hollywood executive allowed this to happen...
Sigourney-weaver-alien1.jpg
Should be tar and feathered

Look at that hair? That costume? Why isn't she in a skirt!
What in the hell were they thinking!
I couldn't even cum!

The 80s were a mess!
Again, you are strawmanning (i.e. providing an argumentative distraction).
Ripley was always meant to be a hard-assed second-wave feminist hero. Her origins go all the way back to 1970s fare like the short film
"Xenogenesis" which James Cameron made in 1978, where a woman operates a mech-suit on a spaceship. It's about a woman being able to do the same things a man can do: that's second-wave feminism. There's even a song about it in "Annie Get Your Gun". I'm all about it.

Ripley was not meant to be beautiful, nor is she a spandex-clad superheroine. She was meant to get the job done and be a new kind of action hero.
Mentioning the likes of Ripley and Sarah O'Connor in terms of the fact that there *were* plenty of strong female characters in the Bronze Age is relevant to quash complaints from whiners like Elizabeth Banks or Jennifer Lawrence.
But mentioning them in terms of spandex-clad fantasy superheroines is definitely not. Hence, strawman.

It's perfectly OK, SHL, if you think Sasha Calle looks hot in the full-body costume and with the non-binary hairstyle. I'm sure some will agree.
But it's not what Supergirl has looked like for the past 50 years. It has very little resemblance to the art of Jose Luis Garcia Lopez which has been on everyone's lunchboxes, T-shirts and Underoos for most of that time. That's the point we're trying to make. Try something new? Sure. Agenda behind it, though? Yes, indeed.

(Also, I think it's ironic that we're talking about this over here, while over on HM, everyone's celebrating the 10th anniversary of The Rye's Doomsday, which features the perfect classic Supergirl costume that everyone knows, and which Melissa Benoist's costume for the first few seasons was very close to).
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DrDominator9 wrote:
1 year ago
At this point, it seems silly not to simply withhold judgement until the movie comes out and see if the actress is good in her role or not. She's an alternate reality Supergirl. Let's just see how they handle it and hope for the best.
I suspect where a lot of folks are right now with the execs at DC Comics in particular, is that their confidence is shaken that the company will make the decisions not based on what the majority of fans want, or filmgoers in general want. but that DC execs will cater to a tiny but vocal minority of folks who have no interest in DC Comics or superheroes to begin with. A lot of us has seen what has been done to these franchises, and these changes don't seem to be done in the name of increasing the popularity of entertainment entities, increasing business, or satisfying mass or target audiences, the changes seem to be targeted at satiating these tiny, but vocal minorities of groups. A lot of folks are uneasy as to the direction of some of these projects and that is what I believe people are responding to.
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It's perfectly OK, SHL, if you think Sasha Calle looks hot in the full-body costume and with the non-binary hairstyle. I'm sure some will agree.
It is well documented on these community boards and forums for over a decade that I love leotards and pantyhose. I don’t like full bodysuits whatsoever when it comes to my personal taste or kinks. I am also not a fan of short hair on women.

If you didn’t know that - fair enough, I don’t think most people know anything about me as I’m constantly mixed up with the guy running SHG and the guy running Heroine Movies.

But if you did then trying to block my argument with the “she’s never going to fuck you” defense or “he’s gotta crush! La La La” is rather school boy IMO.

I think my original argument holds up regardless if you are going to keep stating “straw man! Straww mannnn!”. Not everything needs to be for “you”. And I don’t mean “you” literally. But the collectively “you” of entitlement.

My personal preference for Supergirl is a Leotard and nude hosiery. I personally hated the black tights Benoist had on. But I don’t have such rigid entitlement that I think I need to be catered to, especially by Hollywood.

These movies have global aim. If anything, its target audience is the youth, not old men. I don’t need to see Supergirl getting clocked in the puss in a movie theatre. I don’t need to see Supergirl get raped on HBO Max. Arguably, I really don’t want to see any Superheroine get raped on Disney +

There’s a time and place for everything. I make fetish content cause I had things in my head I wanted to see that Hollywood was never going to deliver on. And I’ll be honest - Taratinos films aren’t better because he has a foot fetish, those moments are distracting.

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Well we got Mary Marvel coming up and at least they didn't screw up her costume much.
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It's perfectly OK, SHL, if you think Sasha Calle looks hot in the full-body costume and with the non-binary hairstyle. I'm sure some will agree.
It is well documented on these community boards and forums for over a decade that I love leotards and pantyhose. I don’t like full bodysuits whatsoever when it comes to my personal taste or kinks. I am also not a fan of short hair on women.

If you didn’t know that - fair enough, I don’t think most people know anything about me as I’m constantly mixed up with the guy running SHG and the guy running Heroine Movies.

But if you did then trying to block my argument with the “she’s never going to fuck you” defense or “he’s gotta crush! La La La” is rather school boy IMO.

I think my original argument holds up regardless if you are going to keep stating “straw man! Straww mannnn!”. Not everything needs to be for “you”. And I don’t mean “you” literally. But the collectively “you” of entitlement.

My personal preference for Supergirl is a Leotard and nude hosiery. I personally hated the black tights Benoist had on. But I don’t have such rigid entitlement that I think I need to be catered to, especially by Hollywood.

These movies have global aim. If anything, its target audience is the youth, not old men. I don’t need to see Supergirl getting clocked in the puss in a movie theatre. I don’t need to see Supergirl get raped on HBO Max. Arguably, I really don’t want to see any Superheroine get raped on Disney +

There’s a time and place for everything. I make fetish content cause I had things in my head I wanted to see that Hollywood was never going to deliver on. And I’ll be honest - Taratinos films aren’t better because he has a foot fetish, those moments are distracting.

The kids these days say people sometimes need to touch grass. I recommend it too
I know exactly who you are, I've seen your movies, and I respect your work. I've never seen you use a short-haired actress, and I've also never seen you use a full bodysuit in a video (although I might be wrong). Which was exactly why I was surprised you continue to go to the "prurient strawman" argument when discussing this topic, and also why I thought you were *defending* the Sasha Calle look. (!)

I touch grass constantly. I'm at Comicons all the time, and I see exactly what cosplays the ladies are wearing.

Anyway, I think at this point we can bury whatever tiny little hatchet there is to bury, because I have it on "good authority" that it's very possible that Sasha Calle *won't* be the Supergirl going forward for DC, and that she's only appearing in this movie as an alternate-Earth female version of Superman. I think James Gunn even mentioned something to the effect that he doesn't know where she'll fit in.

https://remezcla.com/film/will-sasha-ca ... t-we-know/

We'll see what happens down the line. But for now, it's pretty clear that her appearance does not excite any superheroine traditionalists (and I'm pretty sure the Youtuber pop-culture skeptic crowd as well) and I guess we could leave it at that.
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Anyway, I think at this point we can bury whatever tiny little hatchet there is to bury, because I have it on "good authority" that it's very possible that Sasha Calle *won't* be the Supergirl going forward for DC, and that she's only appearing in this movie as an alternate-Earth female version of Superman. I think James Gunn even mentioned something to the effect that he doesn't know where she'll fit in.
Wasn’t that obvious? And I already stated that early in my defense of it not being a big deal that this is the Supergirl will exist considering they have already announced another Supergirl project that has nothing to do with this character.

And to some degree that doesn’t matter to me, cause I wasn’t the one complaining about getting this version of Supergirl. So I’m not relieved she won’t be coming back, I had 0 stake in it at all - cause I accepted it as is.

I don’t know why we have to “bury a hatchet”. This wasn’t some super combative defense of all things regarding my ego. I can handle a debate without emotionally getting involved in it.

I literally just called out everyone who was angry that one depiction of Supergirl wasn’t going to satisfy their cock. It’s hardly a controversial opinion.
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shevek wrote:
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Anyway, I think at this point we can bury whatever tiny little hatchet there is to bury, because I have it on "good authority" that it's very possible that Sasha Calle *won't* be the Supergirl going forward for DC, and that she's only appearing in this movie as an alternate-Earth female version of Superman. I think James Gunn even mentioned something to the effect that he doesn't know where she'll fit in.
Wasn’t that obvious? And I already stated that early in my defense of it not being a big deal that this is the Supergirl will exist considering they have already announced another Supergirl project that has nothing to do with this character.

And to some degree that doesn’t matter to me, cause I wasn’t the one complaining about getting this version of Supergirl. So I’m not relieved she won’t be coming back, I had 0 stake in it at all - cause I accepted it as is.

I don’t know why we have to “bury a hatchet”. This wasn’t some super combative defense of all things regarding my ego. I can handle a debate without emotionally getting involved in it.

I literally just called out everyone who was angry that one depiction of Supergirl wasn’t going to satisfy their cock. It’s hardly a controversial opinion.
No, it wasn't obvious, because I hadn't seen that article, nor been provided with the information, until today. A friend pointed it out to me.

Many people (including myself) went under the assumption that since Sasha Calle was being introduced in the Flash movie, that she would automatically be the Supergirl going forward, regardless of her alternate-universe status, because this is frequently how DC has introduced characters in the past (such as Wonder Woman being first introduced in BvS, or The Flash getting his first turn in Justice League). I am glad to see that *may not* be the case. Hopefully Gunn has enough sense to go back to the classic. But for now, he's keeping guessing.

I understand that you were not the one complaining about Sasha - you made that abundantly clear. And that was also why I said it was a "tiny little hatchet", because the whole thing is picayune. I'm not "emotionally involved" just because I offer a measured, factual response. "Satisfying their cock" (or, to be inclusive, their clit, either of which can be done in the privacy of one's home) is quite a bit different than insinuating that people are getting themselves off in public movie theaters. So, I think everything's copacetic. Many of us simply predict we're not going to like Sasha's portrayal in the upcoming Flash movie, but we could still be wrong. And let's just see what Gunn does with the Kara Danvers character in the future.
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It boggles my f'kn mind you people. Complaining that Supergirl isn't sexy enough in this film... when last I checked, tight form fitting bodysuits are completely sexy. You're all insane. She isn't the blonde skirted gal you WANT thus she looks terrible and that's the mindset you've made up...

It doesn't matter to you that she's not SUPPOSED to be the Kara of the mainline DC and that she's clearly meant to be more the 'what if... Clark was a woman' in the same style of bodysuit, black hair etc. Doesn't matter... She's not blonde, she's not wearing a skirt=bad.

She looks hot. You're all just like... too old and opinionated to the point of self delusion to accept it. It's preference and conditioning. You all need to UNCONDITION yourselves from the idea that every Supergirl in every universe needs to be blonde and wear a skirt. Now if you want to complain about how the DC films always seem to want to tell stories about these superheroes that don't jive with their comic books, 'im sick and tired of alternate universe takes of Batman, I want the batman film that gives me THE Batman' THAT I get... but it's a different issue entirely! It doesn't bother me at all that a Supergirl in another universe doesn't look the same as Kara Danvers of DC's equivalent of 616 or whatever the f'k DC calls its stupid multiverse (cause multiverses are stupid to... but that's also another issue) if the issue is you want to see just a direct 'Supergirl' film staring Blondie Kara Danvers, fine, but whatever THIS is needs to stop.

Please enlighten me as to when form fitting bodysuits stopped being sexy? There's a lot of people who would probably like to know.
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Please enlighten me as to when form fitting bodysuits stopped being sexy?
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She looks hot. You're all just like... too old and opinionated to the point of self delusion to accept it. It's preference and conditioning. You all need to UNCONDITION yourselves from the idea that every Supergirl in every universe needs to be blonde and wear a skirt. Now if you want to complain about how the DC films always seem to want to tell stories about these superheroes that don't jive with their comic books, 'im sick and tired of alternate universe takes of Batman, I want the batman film that gives me THE Batman' THAT I get... but it's a different issue entirely! It doesn't bother me at all that a Supergirl in another universe doesn't look the same as Kara Danvers of DC's equivalent of 616 or whatever the f'k DC calls its stupid multiverse (cause multiverses are stupid to... but that's also another issue) if the issue is you want to see just a direct 'Supergirl' film staring Blondie Kara Danvers, fine, but whatever THIS is needs to stop.

Please enlighten me as to when form fitting bodysuits stopped being sexy? There's a lot of people who would probably like to know.
Well said. I, for one find women in skintight bodysuits sexy & I feel like I'm I'm an minority of liking Sasha's Supergirl, too. I also like Kara's new look in comics, too. This is why I hate fandom & enjoy nerd stuff in peace, especially when I'm planning on cosplaing as black Supes.
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All the flavors are the same because they are all "ice cream".
All self-aggrandising lunatics are the same because they are all "out of their fucking gourd"
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All the flavors are the same because they are all "ice cream".
You aren't 'correct' simply because you are one of the rare few individuals in the entire world who will ONLY eat Vanilla Ice Cream. That just means you're neurotic while everyone else enjoys 90% of every flavor of Ice Cream. Thanks for the stupid metaphor.
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Mr. X wrote:
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All the flavors are the same because they are all "ice cream".
You aren't 'correct' simply because you are one of the rare few individuals in the entire world who will ONLY eat Vanilla Ice Cream. That just means you're neurotic while everyone else enjoys 90% of every flavor of Ice Cream. Thanks for the stupid metaphor.
You're in the same hot tub I'm in.

Explain why I can't dislike something and ONLY when its me or the stereotype of me and by people like you?

Why can you pick and choose for any reason but I have to like the people YOU tell me to like.

I'm posted the pic to show YOUR fallacy that YOU THINK all the ice cream flavors are the same because they are all technically ice cream like YOU DID with your tight suit example. Just cause SOMEONE is in a tight suit does not mean they are the same as SOMEONE ELSE.

But this is pointless. You're too busy rebelling and lesson teaching on people who don't deserve it for things that are not happening to ever listen.
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Femina wrote:
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Mr. X wrote:
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All the flavors are the same because they are all "ice cream".
You aren't 'correct' simply because you are one of the rare few individuals in the entire world who will ONLY eat Vanilla Ice Cream. That just means you're neurotic while everyone else enjoys 90% of every flavor of Ice Cream. Thanks for the stupid metaphor.
You're in the same hot tub I'm in.

Explain why I can't dislike something and ONLY when its me or the stereotype of me and by people like you?

Why can you pick and choose for any reason but I have to like the people YOU tell me to like.

I'm posted the pic to show YOUR fallacy that YOU THINK all the ice cream flavors are the same because they are all technically ice cream like YOU DID with your tight suit example. Just cause SOMEONE is in a tight suit does not mean they are the same as SOMEONE ELSE.

But this is pointless. You're too busy rebelling and lesson teaching on people who don't deserve it for things that are not happening to ever listen.
Now we're playing all fucking innocent, I see

Yeah yeah the people complaining about the suit were totally just going "Hmm, not a fan of this, don't like it". At the very least, you were saying that the design change was ideologically motivated. At the very least


AT THE VERY LEAST

EVEN YOU must realise that's not the same thing as going "not a fan, don't like the suit, think it looks bad". Let alone some of the real mean shit that other people (not you, admittedly) were saying about Sasha Calle looking like a man and stuff

Again you just spin into existence this person who says all the things you get to respond to with your usual tripe and ignore the things that people actually say. Who's fucking saying you have to like it? Nobody? I don't like the suit either. I think it looks boring. Do you see how this is not the same?
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At the very least, you were saying that the design change was ideologically motivated. At the very least
Strawman. Prove it.


I'm not wasting time on anything of your other arguments. Prove this point.
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DCU had no issue whit Henry Cavill shirtless for over 20 minutes in Justice League. They had no issue with Jason Mamoa shirtless and eye candy in multiple scenes. Chris Pine doing a nude scene in Wonder Woman. MCU had no issue with the multiple gratuitous shirtless scenes for Hemsworth, Evans, Pratt.

I think the claim of "skimpy supergirl suit" being bad makes little sense. And this is how I want it. I want these things to die and the best way is to let them burn their own house down. If they have no issue with man-stud fan service but cringe at female fan service when a large portion of the movie audience would be men then die on the vine.

And this idea women are nervous - take a look at tik tok and OF. No end of women gyrating around on a camera. Look at the cosplay girls. Again no end of T and A.

There is literally nothing wrong with having a sexy Supergirl because there is nothing wrong with fan service Superman, Aquaman, Thor.
This.

also pretty fucking convenient that you're ignoring everything else I'm saying when my whole point is you're playing the innocent about "oh pwease I'm just saying I maybe don't wike the new costume ~uwu, all the mean young people are telling me I have to like it" when nobody was saying that JESUS you're disingenuous

"not wasting my time with your other arguments" fuck's sake man you're arguing about a costume for a movie that REALLY shouldn't be coming out at all given that it's star is an actual criminal on a fetish forum and, like, so am I? I'm not judging but "not wasting my time" fucking check out mr city-father over here YEESH
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also pretty fucking convenient that you're ignoring everything else I'm saying when my whole point is you're playing the innocent about "oh pwease I'm just saying I maybe don't wike the new costume ~uwu, all the mean young people are telling me I have to like it" when nobody was saying that JESUS you're disingenuous
Given your apparent hostility toward me you're simply going to call me names anyway so your argument is pointless. But thanks that you once more reduce things down to personal attacks. And no where in that comment you posted did I say there was an agenda. I said there was a double standard. As I clearly stated:

"There is literally nothing wrong with having a sexy Supergirl because there is nothing wrong with fan service Superman, Aquaman, Thor."

You read things that are not there.
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Mr. X wrote:
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Mr. X wrote:
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All the flavors are the same because they are all "ice cream".
You aren't 'correct' simply because you are one of the rare few individuals in the entire world who will ONLY eat Vanilla Ice Cream. That just means you're neurotic while everyone else enjoys 90% of every flavor of Ice Cream. Thanks for the stupid metaphor.
You're in the same hot tub I'm in.

Explain why I can't dislike something and ONLY when its me or the stereotype of me and by people like you?

Why can you pick and choose for any reason but I have to like the people YOU tell me to like.

I'm posted the pic to show YOUR fallacy that YOU THINK all the ice cream flavors are the same because they are all technically ice cream like YOU DID with your tight suit example. Just cause SOMEONE is in a tight suit does not mean they are the same as SOMEONE ELSE.

But this is pointless. You're too busy rebelling and lesson teaching on people who don't deserve it for things that are not happening to ever listen.
I mean, you can just admit it was a stupid metaphor and move on. But okay, let's do this. It's just like the ol' 'Snowflake' defense. Call someone a 'snowflake' and assume the battle is won. You want your crappy metaphor to be effective you've got to do more than just post a picture of ice cream or call someone a snowflake and bounce. I'm free to interpret the metaphor however I like and formulate the best possible response painstakingly on a medium (topic thread) that allows for us to consider and contextualize information for far too long.

But fair, I guess you're free to dislike it (the costume). I'm certainly not the authority on what is 'objectively' sexy or not, but I maintain the opinion that y'all are just a bunch of old kids stuck in your ways incapable of admiring anything that isn't PRECICELY to your overly developed tastes. I'd feel situationally sad for you and move on silently if so much of your dissatisfaction with anything you don't find personally enjoyable wasn't infected by an ugly disdain directed at the differential which you find so distasteful... and to be very fair, I understand that no one, ESPECIALLY myself, is entirely free of this sort of behavior. I don't particularly care what you have personally stated or contributed to this topic thread either, I wasn't speaking directly to Mr. X when I called this overall topic out as being a lot of whining over essentially that Supergirl isn't blonde and wearing a skirt in this film.

YOU tipped your hand into the line of fire when I asked why suddenly tight outfits aren't considered sexy anymore. The image you provided was simply your disdain for fat people in tight bodysuits and basically nothing else. Of course that was certainly majorly just to be funny, and koodos, but the underlying indication that comes alongside that image is that we're ALL actually fat women in tight bodysuits nowdays... so any tight bodysuit is going to be on an ugly fat woman... except that we're on a topic thread with a definitive subject, and we can quite plainly see that Sasha isn't a fat woman in a tight bodysuit even by any SERIOUS construction of opinion. She's very much a FIT woman in a tight bodysuit.

In any case, as I've stated elsewhere now and always, I've no interest in teaching you any lessons, you're immune to that. I just would rather prefer your opinion (and those like it) were never the only one on display. For as much as you may believe I'm agreeable to ALL flavors of Ice Cream, I very much am not, just as I'm sure that deep deep down you don't ONLY partake of Vanilla... but I see a stupid metaphor, I call it out as a stupid metaphor. Present stupid metaphors as argument and flee, accordingly, at your own risk.
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YOU tipped your hand into the line of fire when I asked why suddenly tight outfits aren't considered sexy anymore. The image you provided was simply your disdain for fat people in tight bodysuits and basically nothing else.
Wait, you you just proved my point. NOBODY can look bad in a skin tight suit according to you? So all the icecream flavors are the same. Everything must be accepted and everything is interchangeable?

You just keep proving me right. You asked when did wearing a skin tight suit not be sexy. But according to you there is NO CRITERIA that you will accept that is not sexy cause you apparently accept EVERYTHING.

So again - pointless to discuss this. Are you honestly discussing this or are you rebelling?
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Femina wrote:
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YOU tipped your hand into the line of fire when I asked why suddenly tight outfits aren't considered sexy anymore. The image you provided was simply your disdain for fat people in tight bodysuits and basically nothing else.
Wait, you you just proved my point. NOBODY can look bad in a skin tight suit according to you? So all the icecream flavors are the same. Everything must be accepted and everything is interchangeable?

You just keep proving me right. You asked when did wearing a skin tight suit not be sexy. But according to you there is NO CRITERIA that you will accept that is not sexy cause you apparently accept EVERYTHING.

So again - pointless to discuss this. Are you honestly discussing this or are you rebelling?
Ah the Tucker Carlson defense.

Please direct me to where I stated EVERYONE can look good in a tight bodysuit and that there were no criteria? I'll be patient. I expect a detailed analysis with sources and everything.
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Femina wrote:
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YOU tipped your hand into the line of fire when I asked why suddenly tight outfits aren't considered sexy anymore. The image you provided was simply your disdain for fat people in tight bodysuits and basically nothing else.
Wait, you you just proved my point. NOBODY can look bad in a skin tight suit according to you? So all the icecream flavors are the same. Everything must be accepted and everything is interchangeable?

You just keep proving me right. You asked when did wearing a skin tight suit not be sexy. But according to you there is NO CRITERIA that you will accept that is not sexy cause you apparently accept EVERYTHING.

So again - pointless to discuss this. Are you honestly discussing this or are you rebelling?
Ah the Tucker Carlson defense.

Please direct me to where I stated EVERYONE can look good in a tight bodysuit and that there were no criteria? I'll be patient. I expect a detailed analysis with sources and everything.
This.
Please enlighten me as to when form fitting bodysuits stopped being sexy?
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Right stop this now.

Forget the swearing, the points scoring and walk away convinced you are both right. There's been a ton of posts and reported posts and I ain't got the time or the inclination to wade through all this crap as I have to go and deal with REAL crap and wipe an 87 year old woman's arse before I put her to bed.

Leave it alone
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Yet again a thread flies off the rails thanks to identity politics. Clearly nobody is going to agree here. I'm one more insult away from locking this thread. So discouraging.
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Right stop this now.

Forget the swearing, the points scoring and walk away convinced you are both right. There's been a ton of posts and reported posts and I ain't got the time or the inclination to wade through all this crap as I have to go and deal with REAL crap and wipe an 87 year old woman's arse before I put her to bed.

Leave it alone
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I'd chalk the whole thing up to ninth wave misogyny.
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You can swear just not at each other
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Please keep the thread on track and if you disagree with an opinion express it respectfully
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This thread got pretty wild. Who knew a costume had so much power?

No hard feelings for anyone I debated with. Villains need to unite, too many powerful costumed women running around to let one bodysuit tear us apart.
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This thread got pretty wild. Who knew a costume had so much power?

No hard feelings for anyone I debated with. Villains need to unite, too many powerful costumed women running around to let one bodysuit tear us apart.
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Costume supergirl.

There's an old couple trying to spice up their sex life...
And so one day the grandma visits a costume shop and buys a kinky supergirl costume. The next night, while watching tv, she stands in front of her husband with her cape over her shoulders, pussy fully bared and yells "super pussy!" And the grandpa replies "I'll have the soup."
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The costume makes all the difference.
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It wouldn't be a "waste of a talented actor". There are tons of actors in superhero movies who are one-and-done for various narrative reasons.

If DC was ever to pull the trigger on a portrayal of Power Girl (and this article above is fan-fiction, because there are currently no such plans.
There are hardly any plans to even put her in comics! Which is why there's a running joke that Palmiotti & Conner, who did great work with a sassy and sexy version of PG, should just buy the character from DC.) pretty much dozens of actresses could play the part.

Personally, I think Power Girl would go best in a superhero movie or series that leans heavily on the comedy and camp. She would be an excellent character to introduce in a Booster Gold movie, for example. It would a throwback to the humorous dynamic from the 1990s Keith Giffen 'bwa-ha-ha' era of the Justice League, which most readers loved.

The only thing special about Sasha Calle is that she's an already-cast hot Latina (hot, at least, when she is allowed to be). They'd keep her more for ease of representational signaling than anything else. Or, if she somehow becomes a breakout star in The Flash and fans respond to her in a big way.
Which seems unlikely, but you never know, it could happen.

I'd love to see Calle with blonde hair in a tight white leotard with a cleavage window, but then again, I'd love to see *anyone* do that who is commensurate to the role.
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The only thing special about Sasha Calle is that she's an already-cast hot Latina (hot, at least, when she is allowed to be). They'd keep her more for ease of representational signaling than anything else. Or, if she somehow becomes a breakout star in The Flash and fans respond to her in a big way.
Which seems unlikely, but you never know, it could happen.
This is Warner Bothers who planned a Catwoman solo movie after Michelle Pfeiffer was a hit in Batman Returns and that never happened. When they did make it, the movie had almost no resemblance to what should have been done using any comic book source material.

At least we were spared the Jinx spin off from James Bond with Halle Berry.
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Final Flash trailer.
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👀👀 I’m interested in seeing this story. The House of El & House of Zod unite. Also I dream about doing a couple cosplay of Zod & Supergirl since I’m gonna do Young Justice Zod cosplay anyway.
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In fairness to Sasha, she does look hot AF in the trailers. I still would have preferred the skirt, but I will take what I can get. ;)
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I'm hoping her name is Kara Jor-El, thus being Jor's daughter instead of Zor's! Yup, Flash zapped Kal from existence! :O
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I had to endure that preview so many times last night during the ECF game between Celtics and Heat

And I gave up at half time.
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This is almost Jennifer Lawrence-level gaslighting. The slightly more subtle "I wish I had a hero like the Supergirl we've created when I was little" as opposed to just the utter nonsense of "first action heroine ever."

It's so easy to prove her statement to be utterly wrong - the period between 1999 and 2017 was absolutely packed with superheroine productions.
But we know that's not what she's referring to.

OK, admittedly, that costume is sexy and tight. She has a gorgeous fit body and looks great in it, despite not having any boot heels or even really boots at all. But you know they're going to play that down, and play up the identity thing big time.

¿ta bien?
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Meh let it alone. Its an irrelevant movie anyway. I saw a synopsis of the script.
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Meh let it alone. Its an irrelevant movie anyway. I saw a synopsis of the script.
Yeah. There might be little of actual interest in it other than watching (Pittsburgh's own) Michael Keaton.
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