AvaHeinz wrote: ↑2 years ago
I don't think the backer would get any refund unless a legal challenge is pressed ahead.
Agree that all the backers won't get refunded unless there's legal action. My understanding is the time window to file lawsuits for fraud is 3 years, but as he's been continuing the same fraud since it's initial start in february 2016, he has thus maintained the fraud as ongoing, so currently time window extends to next three years from now, three years from his last update as recent as Feb 29, 2020. And he could still extend this with more lying updates (like the following).
NIghtshadow Kickstarter - Quick Refunds Update - Feb 29, 2020
Altho I don't think a lawsuit is necessary. I do think that loads of backers, backers in large numbers, should complain and state their case directly to Kickstarter Co.
Kickstarter Help and Contact Page
AvaHeinz wrote: ↑2 years ago
...basically, what he claim is that after the 43,000 dollars are donated, he "already fulfilled" his pledge by designing the costume, and writing a secure financing for the movie, well, is actually not true. The purpose of his donation drive is not to secure the funding or making the costume itself, but to develop the movie
It's not the case of him wanting to shoot big and overshot it by a mile, but rather, he simply taking in people money and not work according to the budget he allocated. I can tell you this, I recently made a Full Length Feature film for less than A$10,000, and for him to get $43,000, he should have something out, but he didn't and I am not really sure if he have make anything or plan to make anything.
Except that the purpose of his kickstarter donation drive WAS stated to be for funds to make the costume. Well, not just one costume, but a unspecified number of 'primary?' costumes. And also some unspecified props and weapons.
The false info he uttered at the time was that there were already big investors for big budget movie (he floated figures of $100 million or more in this forum, but he deleted most of his posts on this forum afterwards), but Logan couldn't get the supposed investor money in supposedly fast enough time around Feb 2016, and the kickstarter was launched to get funds for stuff Logan claimed he needed right away to keep on schedule for film production in 2016 (never happened), to "keep our film on schedule for an April 2017 release date" (never happened).
Was complete BS at the time and he knew it. Was just a big scam prepetrated via Kickstarter (and not an honest campaign about a big or any size movie by any stretch of the imagination). And it worked (so it seemed, altho if you add up the amounts contributed by backers who pledged for the various rewards, you'll find that only amounts to $25,687.00! Curious.)
NIghtshadow Kickstarter - Campaign Page
Nightshadow is a Comic Book Style feature film that is currently in preproduction, set to be filmed within the next few months (Spring-Summer 2016). While we are getting investors in place for the production of the film, the timeline is extremely truncated, so we need to raise immediate funds for the cost of the primary costumes, weapons, and props for the film.
That's where you, our Kickstarter Supporters, come in. Costume Designers need to purchase their materials, hire extra employees, and use the designated budget to create the wardrobe for the main characters NOW!
You can read the full extended synopsis of Nightshadow on our website.
Except there were no big budget investors (then or now), timeline wasn't extremely truncated (then or now, cause no investors), no need to raise immediate funds at the time (or any time) other than Logan really wanted that BMW.
As you can imagine, the custom wardrobe for fantasy films like this isn't cheap. Each costume's cost can range anywhere between $5,000 to $12,000. Some costumes cost more than this due to more moving parts, parts lighting up, retractable parts, ventilation systems, specialized molding, etc. A single costume of this type can go all the way up to $30,000 for just one.
There are an initial 6 superheroes and villains within Nightshadow that will need custom-made costumes. Feature films also require multiple costumes to be created. There are typically multiple hero costumes and stunt costumes.
This is where YOU come in. The $30,000 is just a starting point to get some of the important costumes and props started- the ones that will take longer to create and need to begin ASAP (yesterday). As you can see, the Costume Designers on our project team have already started working on the project because they believe in the quality of the project, the potential, the script, and the overall positive impact it will have on society!
The $30,000 was the starting point to buy or lease the BMW. No costumes really needed to be made ASAP (as production never happened, lead actress not even cast). The Costume Designers did meet with Logan, the smooth conman, and started work cause I imagine he probably made a good conman impression and implied he would pay them. All in all, seems one cheap example/sample/test costume was made; the expensive quality ones of $5,000 or more, no evidence of those, as far as anyone can tell. Which makes sense as the Nightshadow actress was not cast, so they had no measurements for her, who knows whose measurements were used for sample. No costumes with moving part, parts lighting up, retractable parts, ventilation systems, etc. Again, production was never going to happen so no need to make those costumes, would just eat into BMW budget.
Risks and challenges
Timing is everything. The purpose of this Kickstarter is to receive funding for the costumes for the Nightshadow feature film while taking what we receive above and beyond that budget and using it to KICKSTART Cross the Line Comics, LLC.
We need to get the costumers started on physical fabrication of the costumes as soon as possible to keep our film on schedule for an April 2017 release date.
Once we receive our funding, we will still be crunched for time. We have to keep moving as quickly as possible to achieve our other deadlines. With your support, we can do this!
Except that timing wasn't everything (at least regarding this never-to-be-made movie) and Logan didn't really need costumers to get started as soon as possible since production in 2016 wasn't going to happen and April 2017 release date wasn't going to happen. No "crunched for time" regarding movie, no movie-making deadlines to achieve. But with backers support, what Logan really means by "we can do this!" is: "I, Logan, I am the 'we' that can defraud people on kickstarter out of enough money to buy or lease my dream BMW (Big Movie-fakeout Wheels)."
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