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Accusations seem to be enough to remove Johnny Depp from Fantastic Beasts and Pirates, not to mention many others of both sexes who get cancel to satisfy the mob. Gina Carano, Kevin Spacey etc.argento wrote: ↑2 years agoah.png
I found this tweet that mentions a petition to remove Amber Heard from acuaman. I don't think so
! She was not convicted, it is not known if she is guilty or not, therefore, we are taking her job away from her. And if she was, you can't mix things up. This is fiction!
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It was unfair what happened to Johnny Depp. It is unfair because not even a judge can judge him beyond the bench.Dazzle1 wrote: ↑2 years agoAccusations seem to be enough to remove Johnny Depp from Fantastic Beasts and Pirates, not to mention many others of both sexes who get cancel to satisfy the mob. Gina Carano, Kevin Spacey etc.argento wrote: ↑2 years agoah.png
I found this tweet that mentions a petition to remove Amber Heard from acuaman. I don't think so
! She was not convicted, it is not known if she is guilty or not, therefore, we are taking her job away from her. And if she was, you can't mix things up. This is fiction!
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As far as I am concerned, it will not catch fire.Damselbinder wrote: ↑2 years agoOh god please no, don't bring this up here, not on this forum; it's going to be a spectacular dumpster fire
It doesn't have to be a dumpster fire if people refrain from personal attacks. Carry on.Damselbinder wrote: ↑2 years agoOh god please no, don't bring this up here, not on this forum; it's going to be a spectacular dumpster fire
she is gorgeousshevek wrote: ↑2 years agoTo quote from a Giant Freaking Robot article about this subject from a year ago:
"Amber Heard’s situation is more straightforward than Depp’s, legally speaking. Regardless of all the petitions, Warner Bros. simply can’t do what they are asking. They can’t break their contract with the actress (the contract calls for the sequel) because no criminal charges were filed against her. She can’t even be asked to resign, much like Depp was, because she hasn’t lost any civil judgment. At least not yet."
It'd be an incredible shame if a beautiful, shapely redhead did not fill out the Mera costume in Aquaman 2. As far as I'm concerned, it's doesn't have to be Amber Heard, as long as there is an acceptable substitute.
Agreed. I didn't use to feel that way about cameras in the courtroom, but some of these circus trials we have had over the years, lawyers, and even judges playing to the cameras, that I think sometimes the goal of a fair trial is compromised, polluted by celebrity, cameras, and other aspects I won't mention in order to keep the topic in safe waters. Cameras in the courtroom also I think at times distorts reality, one sees snippets here and there, and folks make judgments on how the trial is going without having the proper context of the entire trial.Femina wrote: ↑2 years agoThe Legal system was not designed to stand up to this level of public scrutiny. The idea that trials would be held open to the public was made to assure the populace that everything in the trial would be above board... but it also made under the assumption that no more than 30 some odd people would be able to pack into the courtroom and observe... never in their wildest imaginations did the men who created the system imagine that the entire world would be able to log in on youtube to watch a trial and copy paste "Burn the Witch!" or some other insult in either direction over and over and over for an eight hour workday. It inevitably exacerbates the issue until the people associated with them have to say something or else the world makes their own assumptions and decides for them what they think.
I don't think we should be televising trials. At this rate, one day we're going to be a Cardassian Court.
Look, somebody had to put a stop to those Depp Pirate films, the last 2 or 3 (plus that lone ranger train wreck) are basically watching someone descend into a sort of haze of cosplay addicted madness
Deep breaths LB, deep breaths.lionbadger wrote: ↑2 years agoLook, somebody had to put a stop to those Depp Pirate films, the last 2 or 3 (plus that lone ranger train wreck) are basically watching someone descend into a sort of haze of cosplay addicted madness
and fuelling him up with the stukapillen then letting him go on Fantastic beasts wouldn't have been any better, can you image, 3,4 maybe 5 films of Depp running around as a semi albino yank voldermort, ffs
Out of the three you mentioned (Ezra Miller, Chris Pratt, Amber Heard), only Pratt is the one who did nothing at all.
Fantastic reference, Femina - Deep Space 9 is truly the best Star Trek! For those unaware, she's referring to a kangaroo court where the guilty verdict is set in advance, and the trial is for show.
Again (see above for the danger of celebrity conflation) Spacey and Carano were extremely different circumstances. Spacey was literally Cosby-level.
You can’t say she was cancelled and then link to her up coming movie trailer. That sort of makes my point. Genes Simmons was given a lifetime ban by Fox News, that is no more a “cancel”. That she has 1 million follower on Twitter and 2 million on IG, again, proves there is no such thing as “cancelling”. It’s a creation to sooth bruised egos.shevek wrote: ↑2 years agoOut of the three you mentioned (Ezra Miller, Chris Pratt, Amber Heard), only Pratt is the one who did nothing at all.
Fantastic reference, Femina - Deep Space 9 is truly the best Star Trek! For those unaware, she's referring to a kangaroo court where the guilty verdict is set in advance, and the trial is for show.
Again (see above for the danger of celebrity conflation) Spacey and Carano were extremely different circumstances. Spacey was literally Cosby-level.
With Carano, however, it was basically nothing, just a handful of tweets which were mostly spot on, anyway.
Disney could have papered it over and moved on.
And she never lost any "appeal." She is still extremely popular - 1 million followers on Twitter, and nearly 2 million on IG. It was only a small vocal group who led the charge. And yes, she really was "cancelled" (blacklisted from the mainstream industry is the current definition of the word). Terror on the Prairie comes out June 6.
Back to the Heard.
I agree. Another bald tire spinning on ice.Damselbinder wrote: ↑2 years agoI knew this would happen
I fucking knew this would happen. I TOLD you it would be a dumpster fire.
The rule is no politics. It devolved into political mudslinging immediately. If this doesn't break the rules I don't know what does.
Once a dude starts using the word cancel, that is where the discourse starts to go downhill and devolve into politics. Folks ought to know without being reminded that cancel is a political buzz word these days, a sort of a gateway word that can easily drive a thread off topic and into political realm which is off limits here.Damselbinder wrote: ↑2 years agoI knew this would happen
I fucking knew this would happen. I TOLD you it would be a dumpster fire.
The rule is no politics. It devolved into political mudslinging immediately. If this doesn't break the rules I don't know what does.
True. That petition with 3 million signatures is probably the single biggest "cancel" movement to date in this current era - certainly the biggest one coming from the grassroots (as opposed to the corporate offices).
No one cares what she does in her private life.batgirl1969 wrote: ↑2 years agoR.jpegLet's all just be thankful God creates beautiful sexy blondes like this for us all(men & women) to enjoy!! Here she is in her prime, she would have made a perfect She-Ra or Adora, or even Supergirl, she is just perfect here, maybe not her attitude but who gives a fuck!!!f695d72b374aa6283b29965a5e042f14.jpg
You're right, he didn't do anything. But there is a twitter campaign to have him booted from the Guardians franchise because of his association with a controversial church. Even though there are numerous celebrities associated with that church he's being singled out for some reason.
Guess we know who wears the pants in that house... (ducks)Maskripper wrote: ↑2 years agoSeemingly she also stole his clothes and is wearing them for the trial...
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Maskripper wrote: ↑2 years agoSeemingly she also stole his clothes and is wearing them for the trial...
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I dont expect anything of celebrities, except that they use a toiletivandobsky wrote: ↑2 years agoPeople appear to expect celebrities to be as good, or better than normal people. Why can't we revel in her being worse, and live vicariously through that. Back in the day, actors, rock stars etc used to get into drunken bar fights, smash up hotel rooms, shag everything in sight and it was fun and exciting.
Wikipedia says that he was arrested for harassment and minor injuries (this is how it is typified in the Argentine penal code, I guess it must be similar to the American one). Who has to judge him is the justice system. If he is guilty, he should be sentenced. What I do not agree with is the culture of cancellation (gathering signatures to remove someone from some place). In Argentina we use the word escrache (an Argentine and Uruguayan colloquialism with two meanings, "to break, destroy, crush" and "to photograph a person").
This. Due process. If he's guilty, the courts should judge him so and give the appropriate punishment. That's what the justice system is for.argento wrote: ↑2 years agoWikipedia says that he was arrested for harassment and minor injuries (this is how it is typified in the Argentine penal code, I guess it must be similar to the American one). Who has to judge him is the justice system. If he is guilty, he should be sentenced. What I do not agree with is the culture of cancellation (gathering signatures to remove someone from some place). In Argentina we use the word escrache (an Argentine and Uruguayan colloquialism with two meanings, "to break, destroy, crush" and "to photograph a person").
It is a very serious crime pedophilia. The studio has the protestad, in Civil Law to hire or fire anyone. According to what I read, he concealed his criminal record, therefore, there is deceit. If the studio had known about it before, they would not have hired him.Mr. X wrote: ↑2 years agohttps://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/20 ... jake-busey
So Olivia Munn got Steven Wilder Striegel removed from the movie The Predator after she found out he was a registered sex offender. He apparently did his time. Is this an acceptable thing to do especially when the scene was a sex scene? Was the studio doing the right thing removing him from the movie?
protestad: Power or authority that someone has over a person or thing.argento wrote: ↑2 years agoIt is a very serious crime pedophilia. The studio has the protestad, in Civil Law to hire or fire anyone. According to what I read, he concealed his criminal record, therefore, there is deceit. If the studio had known about it before, they would not have hired him.Mr. X wrote: ↑2 years agohttps://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/20 ... jake-busey
So Olivia Munn got Steven Wilder Striegel removed from the movie The Predator after she found out he was a registered sex offender. He apparently did his time. Is this an acceptable thing to do especially when the scene was a sex scene? Was the studio doing the right thing removing him from the movie?
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