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This post is mainly just an airing of grievances, but it makes me so sad that there are no American studios that can quite match the quality of videos that GIGA puts out on a regular basis. Don't get me wrong. I fully understand that Japan is much more open with their porn industry, unlike the closet pervert culture of the US, and that Japanese citizens are much more willing to pay for adult content, unlike the PornHub free porn culture of the US. You can actually turn a decent profit in Japan with an adult film studio, an almost herculean feat in the States. I also understand that Japan is not as stringent with their adult content as the US is. I have no source for this, but I have heard that the major American high budget porn studios unofficially agreed to stay away from consenting non consent and other morally ambiguous fetishes. All this to say, I understand why we don't have any American made SHiP content with the same level of quality as our eastern counterparts, but I genuinely wish we did.

To give credit where credit is due, the acting and cinematography in SuperHeroineLimited and TBFE productions (ignoring TBFE's stylized heavy color grading) is absolutely fantastic, but they just don't quite scratch the same itch. SHL has a strong focus on physical overpowering and simulated rape. I know a good deal of the SHiP community tends to like simulated rape (where the victim is completely overpowered, emotionally traumatized, and never actually enjoys what happened to them) but for those of us who like body betrayal and mind break, it doesn't hit the same (pun fully intended). I know that is just a personal bias of mine, but in the breadth of content from GIGA you can find both types of content in spades. As for TBFE, I have been a fan of their work for years now. Ever since I saw the old Super Mercedes videos by Punished heroines (the videos that got me into the SHiP fetish), I have followed the content of SHG-media frequently. It has been fun to watch the quality of their videos get better and better over the years. Unfortunately, be it because of logistical or personal reasons, they never shoot any hardcore content. All of their videos either have simulated sex or implied vibrators. I know that porn actress are always performing and faking orgasms all the time, but their is something so primal about actually seeing the pentation that you just cant get from sim sex. Once again, it will be a much harder task to find GIGA vids that simulate penetration rather than actually showing it. The final studio I will credit is Primal's Disgraced Superheroines and Superheroine Shame. On the opposite end of the spectrum, this studio makes content that is almost entirely hardcore, but much to my dismay, their videos have terrible production quality, lacking the cinematography, writing, and acting of the previously mentioned studios. Their sex scenes are great, if not a bit too drawn out (looking at you 20 minute BJ scene…) but the build up and context that makes the previous studios so great is just non existent.

All this to say, I genuinely wish there was an American studio that married these to qualities. If a film maker could shoot with the gorgeous cinematography of SHL, the heart throbbing context and emotional acting of TBFE (Coco was exceptional at this), and the raw real sex of Primal, than I know for a fact I would be spending way more money than I should on that content.

For the record, I love GIGA’s content but as someone who doesn't speak Japanese, all of the dirty talk and context is usually lost on me. Also, at the risk of sounding racist, Japan tends to always portray women with a youthful innocence that results in them speaking like little girls. This combined with the sound of their language tends to result in their actresses sounding “squeaky.” I eventually started to get used to it, but that combined with my inability to speak the language makes me pine for comparable content by American studios. Give me Spandexer Neo with an American actress and I’ll give you a full price purchase.
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well Giga seems to be very repetitive. Usually the same formula. They also seem to have access to a squad of stunt men which I assume they bring on for the fight scenes. I also noticed they dual purpose their videos. They do an outdoors style fight and design the story so they can yank out the naughty stuff and sell the rest as a full PG story.
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I'm totally agree. I speak and understand Japanese and I confirm that is necessary to fully enjoy Giga movies. Especially because Japaneses movies have lot of diologues during intercourse. It's often a part of the psychologic violence the villain use on the heroine. And sometimes there are productions that are related to others and if you don't understand Japanese, you risk missing a lot of important elements. I particularly recommend the Superlady series. The storyline is incredible.
American studios can't match because they have lot of constraints. But nevertheless, SHL, TBFE, RYE etc... do a good job.
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Mr. X wrote: 4 months ago well Giga seems to be very repetitive. Usually the same formula. They also seem to have access to a squad of stunt men which I assume they bring on for the fight scenes. I also noticed they dual purpose their videos. They do an outdoors style fight and design the story so they can yank out the naughty stuff and sell the rest as a full PG story.
I will admit that they do tend to stick to a formula. I fortunately love that formula, but nevertheless it can be a bit repetitive. I am a little skeptical about the PG story claim. Even the more taim parts of these videos still involve a lot of grabbing, groping, and choking. Granted, I don't know what rating standards in Japan are, so that could just be normal over there, but I still am taking that one with a grain of salt. If you have actually examples of this though, please show me. Its definitely a neat way of making more money, if the studio uses that trick.
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Well put.

There are a couple of things at play here... Lets start with the most sinister. Most of the porn produced in Japan is mob controlled which means they have lots of money and they pay their "talent" peanuts and accept it or else. I know this from several people who have tried to do business in Japan. The only company that was vaguely successful at it was Kink.com and that outcome was fairly favorable but they never repeated it. I digress.

The point is, you have beautiful women, good sets and costumes and it's not costing all that much. This is how these studios can crank out tons of videos. It's cheap! AND, you don't have any problems with the talent on set, if you know what I mean.

So why doesn't anyone here in the states produce content like this? Well, if you remember one company did. Does anyone remember a company that used to crank out several videos a week? They were able to do this because they weren't paying the girls fetish and porn rates (to be fair, the content wasn't fetish or porn based in the beginning) and despite what anyone says, their production value was pretty decent and they were very successful until the wheels kind of fell off.

Its just very hard to replicate that type of production in the states because the money just isn't there and it's even worse now.
AND Then, as someone mentioned, add stuntmen and extras and all the things that make those videos fun, hoooo...its a lot.

But I agree with you, maybe someone will figure it out. It's not the first time this has been brought up. Maybe someone is working secretly in the wings!
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Giga seems to have a dedicated place for shooting plus that same roof top. I know they rotate through a lot of girls. Someone mentioned that's desired in Japan to have new girls. My impression was one or two of the regular guys you see are wealthy and do this as a kink/paid sex thing. I've wondered if the fighting extras get paid or they do this for experience only. It must be nice having a big enough place to keep some scale buildings around for giant monster fights.
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I have a love/hate relationship with GIGA videos.
Ok, hate is an overstatement, but there are quite some negative aspects for me with their videos.

Pro: :thumbup:
- some great costumes and masks
- some great unmaskings and unmasking struggles!
- solid fight scenes (in comparison to most other fetish videos)
- mostly beautiful women
- solid acting (for a fetish video)

Con:
- language (I mean it wouldn't be that hard to deliver some subtitles at least...they do that only with very few videos)
- pixelation
- same storyline over and over again
- very few videos with figures inspired by famous heroines/villainesses (like Batgirl, Catwoman etc.)
- often/mostly focuses way too much on "hard/dark" stuff...for my taste


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I agree with Maskripper's points.

The language for me is the major factor.

You either need subtitles or dubbing.

As an example of a non porn, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon or Hero you need it to understand the stories and even though when dubbed and the men also sound like gangsters and the women like Jewish American Princess( watch 5 Deadly Venoms) it's better than not understanding.

Second like a few studios here: Same story line, heroine or hero beats up flunkies , main villain or villainess easily subdues the hero/heroine and dominates or turns them evil.


Maskripper wrote: 4 months ago I have a love/hate relationship with GIGA videos.
Ok, hate is an overstatement, but there are quite some negative aspects for me with their videos.

Pro: :thumbup:
- some great costumes and masks
- some great unmaskings and unmasking struggles!
- solid fight scenes (in comparison to most other fetish videos)
- mostly beautiful women
- solid acting (for a fetish video)

Con:
- language (I mean it wouldn't be that hard to deliver some subtitles at least...they do that only with very few videos)
- pixelation
- same storyline over and over again
- very few videos with figures inspired by famous heroines/villainesses (like Batgirl, Catwoman etc.)
- often/mostly focuses way too much on "hard/dark" stuff...for my taste


-
Fun little side story, in the early 2000s, before high-speed internet, I ordered 3 or 4 DVDs from them. I was informed to pick them up at a customs office here (rather unusual).
That was slightly...embarrassing, even the customs guy only took a quick glance inside the package to see that the customs form was filled out somehow properly to the content of the package.... :blush:
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Maskripper wrote: 4 months ago I have a love/hate relationship with GIGA videos.
Ok, hate is an overstatement, but there are quite some negative aspects for me with their videos.

Pro: :thumbup:
- some great costumes and masks
- some great unmaskings and unmasking struggles!
- solid fight scenes (in comparison to most other fetish videos)
- mostly beautiful women
- solid acting (for a fetish video)

Con:
- language (I mean it wouldn't be that hard to deliver some subtitles at least...they do that only with very few videos)
- pixelation
- same storyline over and over again
- very few videos with figures inspired by famous heroines/villainesses (like Batgirl, Catwoman etc.)
- often/mostly focuses way too much on "hard/dark" stuff...for my taste


-
Fun little side story, in the early 2000s, before high-speed internet, I ordered 3 or 4 DVDs from them. I was informed to pick them up at a customs office here (rather unusual).
That was slightly...embarrassing, even the customs guy only took a quick glance inside the package to see that the customs form was filled out somehow properly to the content of the package.... :blush:
The majority of their videos are inspired by famous heroines, it's just famous Japanese heroines. Looking through their front page right now and most of it is either Sailor Moon or Power Rangers with a legally distinct Wonder Woman and Power Girl as your only recent Western adaptions. Honestly I kind of like that they have that focus because western studios never really touch those kind of heroes and when they do they often lose the spirit of it. The giant heroine videos they do are also the only Giantess content I enjoy because it's more geared towards the heroine having large scale humiliation rather than a power fantasy about crushing things (not that they don't dabble in that as well).
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wordsandthings wrote: 4 months ago This post is mainly just an airing of grievances, but it makes me so sad that there are no American studios that can quite match the quality of videos that GIGA puts out on a regular basis. Don't get me wrong. I fully understand that Japan is much more open with their porn industry, unlike the closet pervert culture of the US, and that Japanese citizens are much more willing to pay for adult content, unlike the PornHub free porn culture of the US. You can actually turn a decent profit in Japan with an adult film studio, an almost herculean feat in the States. I also understand that Japan is not as stringent with their adult content as the US is. I have no source for this, but I have heard that the major American high budget porn studios unofficially agreed to stay away from consenting non consent and other morally ambiguous fetishes. All this to say, I understand why we don't have any American made SHiP content with the same level of quality as our eastern counterparts, but I genuinely wish we did.
Thank you for the compliments and acknowledgement,

That being said - I am not sure the divide between the GIGA films I have seen and the ones you are claiming are that wildly different than the ones directors like me and TBFE make. Many of the GIGA films I have seen are about overpowering and simulated rape. The majority of them seem to be very in line with a lot of the content that I make.

The exceptions tend to be more of the off shoot more intense/stranger content like: punching a heroine violently until she pisses or shits herself / and or a magical curse where a heroine grows a penis.

With GIGAs ability to pump out content they can offer a variety of categories and a variety of directors to serve micro-genres within the heroine genre itself. In that vein you are correct - us American producers cant compete cause we are not studios with a big staff and machine like organization. The more puritanical mindset of the United States also doesn't allow us to be - with things like major payment processors not supporting more taboo content etc

I get the frustration, as I too would like to offer more variety in the content I make. But I can also attest to the fact that my films that sway too far from the mainstream (that being heroine overpowered and assaulted) tend to be high risk as they are not supported by customers financially.

I can promise you this - if people were willing to pay for content, not leak it, in decent numbers - you'd see more producers making that kind of content you'd want. People more than anything else like to be successful and make a high return on their investment. So if you notice a trend that directors/producers aren't supporting or making the kind of content you desire - its probably because there isn't enough of consumers like you out there to support more of that kind of content.
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I think a mix between SHL and Alzi production would result to the perfection. Producing many episodes and seasons like a TV series on Youtube and making an atlernate ending hardcore version for each episode that you can purchsase on another website would be very cool.
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jigoku wrote: 4 months ago I think a mix between SHL and Alzi production would result to the perfection. Producing many episodes and seasons like a TV series on Youtube and making an atlernate ending hardcore version for each episode that you can purchsase on another website would be very cool.
I’ve considered this but I have a bit of a moral barrier when it comes to that kind of marketing

I don’t want to expose newbies to non-consensual content. Hence why I don’t market outside of forums like heroinemovies or here. I rather people who seek the content I make find me, than me seek them out

I’ve been a feminist as long as I can remember and there is a paradox when it comes to the kink inside me (heroine peril) vs my belief system (feminist/etc). I don’t believe having rape roleplay desires is wrong but I do take issue with how often depictions of rape like content is often in mainstream media - like forced marriage in Disney films etc

I don’t know I would have the kind of kinks I do if I didn’t watch Wonder Woman and the Batman 60s series as a kid. The Batman film (Michael Keaton) even had Joker sniffing a woman’s high heels and forcing her to be intimate with him

In that respect, I don’t want to attract a wider audience on YouTube and accidentally expose some 8 year old on YouTube looking up superheroes then have them clicking a link to end up on my site. I don’t want to breed my own kind. I rather just set up a campfire in our neck of the woods and let them wander here on their own

So, I agree it’s a good marketing idea. I only worry it would be too effective and the net it casts might catch too many fish
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One thing I'll say about GIGA, I do like doing business with them. Back around 2010, I bought some of their vids on line, and they had pages (it seems like now.) of warnings that if you downloaded them they would only play on the one computer u downloaded them on. I had several I really liked, but a fire destroyed my home and that computer. (no need for condolences I'm over that now) Fstfwd 2018. I decided to sign up for a GiGA acct again and was told my email was already in use. So then I asked for new username and then new password. Updated both and signed in. I idly clicked on 'MyLibrary. and Sheeet, there are my vids from 2010. It was like finding a gold ring I lost 20 years ago.
I've found tho they only do about one in ten F/F vids, which are the only kind I like. The fighting in those is often no better than most US made similar stuff, and inferior to some. (For me the heroine losing a one on one catfight is the key element. The lesbian rape and abuse afterward is good too for me, and GIGA usually does a good job of that, but so do quite a few American ones.

The digital genitalia masking is annoying as heck, too. Not understanding the dialog doesn't bother me. Sometimes I think it masks a lot of mediocre acting.
All in all I'd have to say that my favorite GIGA movies have been no more enjoyable for me than my favorite American ones. Unfortunately both categories are few and far between, but I keep buying and hoping.
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The language to me isn't an issue because 95% of the plots are all the same. I just wish they'd mix things up a bit, have more KOs etc. They very rarely do straight up bondage.
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There's something very special and otherworldly about the JAV stuff, would be nice to see some crosspolination. I like the fight scenes, mad engrish titles and ridiculous but played-straight ryona with obviously fake giant spiky foam bats, slime, etc. I wonder whether moviemakers in the outside world would get in trouble for making that kind of stuff. Really we should just go off and make our own society in space or something but I shouldn't get political.
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SHL wrote: 4 months ago
wordsandthings wrote: 4 months ago This post is mainly just an airing of grievances, but it makes me so sad that there are no American studios that can quite match the quality of videos that GIGA puts out on a regular basis. Don't get me wrong. I fully understand that Japan is much more open with their porn industry, unlike the closet pervert culture of the US, and that Japanese citizens are much more willing to pay for adult content, unlike the PornHub free porn culture of the US. You can actually turn a decent profit in Japan with an adult film studio, an almost herculean feat in the States. I also understand that Japan is not as stringent with their adult content as the US is. I have no source for this, but I have heard that the major American high budget porn studios unofficially agreed to stay away from consenting non consent and other morally ambiguous fetishes. All this to say, I understand why we don't have any American made SHiP content with the same level of quality as our eastern counterparts, but I genuinely wish we did.
Thank you for the compliments and acknowledgement,

That being said - I am not sure the divide between the GIGA films I have seen and the ones you are claiming are that wildly different than the ones directors like me and TBFE make. Many of the GIGA films I have seen are about overpowering and simulated rape. The majority of them seem to be very in line with a lot of the content that I make.

The exceptions tend to be more of the off shoot more intense/stranger content like: punching a heroine violently until she pisses or shits herself / and or a magical curse where a heroine grows a penis.

With GIGAs ability to pump out content they can offer a variety of categories and a variety of directors to serve micro-genres within the heroine genre itself. In that vein you are correct - us American producers cant compete cause we are not studios with a big staff and machine like organization. The more puritanical mindset of the United States also doesn't allow us to be - with things like major payment processors not supporting more taboo content etc

I get the frustration, as I too would like to offer more variety in the content I make. But I can also attest to the fact that my films that sway too far from the mainstream (that being heroine overpowered and assaulted) tend to be high risk as they are not supported by customers financially.

I can promise you this - if people were willing to pay for content, not leak it, in decent numbers - you'd see more producers making that kind of content you'd want. People more than anything else like to be successful and make a high return on their investment. So if you notice a trend that directors/producers aren't supporting or making the kind of content you desire - its probably because there isn't enough of consumers like you out there to support more of that kind of content.
Thank you so much for responding to me. Again, I would like to thank you for your impeccable work. I personally think you have the best cinematography of all the studios I have seen and your color grading in fantastic!

As for my critique, there are exceptions to every rule, but I would say that the major difference between your films and most GIGA productions is the body betrayal/mind break angle. In a long list of GIGA videos I have seen, the emphasis of the character arch is on the fact that the heroine pretends to not want to be violated, but really wants it. Even if she genuinely doesn't want it at first, she is overwhelmed with pleasure and eventually she gives in, her mind breaks, and she just wants to be used. To put it simply, the heroine doesn't want to want it, but can't help it. Inversely, all of your content I have seen, from the Uninvited series, to your newer videos like Wonder Woman - The Harvest (which have all gotten better and better in production quality so congratulations) all tend to be about purely physical domination. Your heroines are overpowered, beaten, and used, but its all purely for the pleasure of the guy. They never have to wrestle with the emotional shame of wanting to be used. They usually end in a fit of horrified tears and not an overwhelming shameful acceptance that all they are is just a needy slut who is meant to be used. (Please excuse the language, but it is the best way I can express the state of mind). From the comments on your Heroinemovies.com posts, your fans seem to really like the brutal physical focused content, so I am not going to tell you to go against their wishes. You are incredible at what you do, and I can't want to see how your production quality will continue to improve in the future. I just wish that I could see videos of your quality but with the mind break/body betrayal angle that I mentioned above. TBFE does this angle often and incredibly well, but for whatever reason, they are not interest in hardcore, so it just doesn't scratch the same itch. All the same, keep doing what you are doing. Thank you for raising the bar of quality in our kink.

In addition, I have nothing but respect for your reply to jigoku. I also consider myself a feminist, so I have had to grapple with the moral ambiguity of this kink, as well. Seeing a business man put his own ethics above the possibility of profit is a level of business ethics almost unheard of in our profit driven cooperate world, and I applaud you for it.
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MightyHypnotic wrote: 4 months ago Well put.

There are a couple of things at play here... Lets start with the most sinister. Most of the porn produced in Japan is mob controlled which means they have lots of money and they pay their "talent" peanuts and accept it or else. I know this from several people who have tried to do business in Japan. The only company that was vaguely successful at it was Kink.com and that outcome was fairly favorable but they never repeated it. I digress.

The point is, you have beautiful women, good sets and costumes and it's not costing all that much. This is how these studios can crank out tons of videos. It's cheap! AND, you don't have any problems with the talent on set, if you know what I mean.

So why doesn't anyone here in the states produce content like this? Well, if you remember one company did. Does anyone remember a company that used to crank out several videos a week? They were able to do this because they weren't paying the girls fetish and porn rates (to be fair, the content wasn't fetish or porn based in the beginning) and despite what anyone says, their production value was pretty decent and they were very successful until the wheels kind of fell off.

Its just very hard to replicate that type of production in the states because the money just isn't there and it's even worse now.
AND Then, as someone mentioned, add stuntmen and extras and all the things that make those videos fun, hoooo...its a lot.

But I agree with you, maybe someone will figure it out. It's not the first time this has been brought up. Maybe someone is working secretly in the wings!
Oof... I did not know about the horrible business ethics GIGA employed. Well now I just feel bad. I suppose it's pretty easy to make quality stuff when you can get away with paying your talent pennies on the dollar and treat them like garbage. That is not fair at all. It's the characters that should be getting f***ed, not the actors.
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One huge problem the USA has is that there is a lot of work by a lot of prudes in position of power that goes into marginalising adult movie producers into a legal grey area when it comes to financial services and other things. So not only might you have to move your entire business based on the whims of state legislations, you most likely have to cut a substantial percentage off your income to whoever is handling your credit card transactions. I don't know the numbers for the various sites off the top of my head, but it's often something like 40%, maybe at best 20%.

So there's definitely enough money in the porn industry in the USA to make movies like GIGA, or any of the other Japanese producers, but it's going to the guys handling the money.
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Dogfish wrote: 4 months ago So there's definitely enough money in the porn industry in the USA to make movies like GIGA, or any of the other Japanese producers, but it's going to the guys handling the money.
Yes regular transactions are like 1%. For adult it can be 20%-40%. And the bank can drop you at any time. I got victimized by this twice where my banks allowed me to host, collected a huge escrow then cancelled me and kept the escrow. And that's another thing, on top of the high percent they keep escrow. Now granted adult is volatile with lots of charge backs, shady people and fly by nights but this just allows banks to rip people off. And you're at the whim of any political wave like when Visa shut down provides in Britain.
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I love stories starring ultra heroes and ultra heroines but Giga often exaggerates in scenes of sexual violence
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Re: I wish American Studios could Match the Quality of Japan (GIGA)

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SHL wrote: 4 months ago
jigoku wrote: 4 months ago I think a mix between SHL and Alzi production would result to the perfection. Producing many episodes and seasons like a TV series on Youtube and making an atlernate ending hardcore version for each episode that you can purchsase on another website would be very cool.
I’ve considered this but I have a bit of a moral barrier when it comes to that kind of marketing

I don’t want to expose newbies to non-consensual content. Hence why I don’t market outside of forums like heroinemovies or here. I rather people who seek the content I make find me, than me seek them out

I’ve been a feminist as long as I can remember and there is a paradox when it comes to the kink inside me (heroine peril) vs my belief system (feminist/etc). I don’t believe having rape roleplay desires is wrong but I do take issue with how often depictions of rape like content is often in mainstream media - like forced marriage in Disney films etc

I don’t know I would have the kind of kinks I do if I didn’t watch Wonder Woman and the Batman 60s series as a kid. The Batman film (Michael Keaton) even had Joker sniffing a woman’s high heels and forcing her to be intimate with him

In that respect, I don’t want to attract a wider audience on YouTube and accidentally expose some 8 year old on YouTube looking up superheroes then have them clicking a link to end up on my site. I don’t want to breed my own kind. I rather just set up a campfire in our neck of the woods and let them wander here on their own

So, I agree it’s a good marketing idea. I only worry it would be too effective and the net it casts might catch too many fish


You mark a point. Alzi can do it because it's not adult content. And it's fine for me because it's not what I'm looking for first. I really love his videos. The adult content would be just a piece on the cake.

About making a series, I guess that the great difficulty comes from the fact that you would have to use the same actors and actresses for the entire duration of the series. Just keep going your good work and don't change anything.
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Re: I wish American Studios could Match the Quality of Japan (GIGA)

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jigoku wrote: 4 months ago I'm totally agree. I speak and understand Japanese and I confirm that is necessary to fully enjoy Giga movies. Especially because Japaneses movies have lot of diologues during intercourse. It's often a part of the psychologic violence the villain use on the heroine.
With regards to SHL's reluctance to use the same kind of Youtube/social media promotion that someone like Alzi does, I can certainly understand that. However, anyone who is really looking for a 'gateway' to sexy Japanese superheroine content will find it very easy to get hooked on Youtube anyway, because there are literally hundreds of accounts posting short clips from companies like GIGA.

Here is one example, but the reason I'm posting it there is not for that. It's because I would love to know the exact lyrics to the amazing Spandexer Theme Song, which I've heard many times during the excellent GIGA series featuring that character.
All I know is "Spandexer, here we come" and "Spandexer, right on time" but of course, everything else is in Japanese.

Jigoku, since you know Japanese, would you be able to print out in this thread - once and for all - the entire lyrics to the Spandexer Theme in Latin letters with translation. I would love to put together a cover version of the song with a local band, to perform as part of a set of superheroine theme songs (WW, Batgirl '66, EW&DG, and so on) for next Halloween!

Thanks for any good help you can provide, Jigoku. The theme song exists in its entirety in this clip!
[It's age-restricted, so the clip won't pop up in the forum, but you can just click on the link.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEbhDObrga4
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Re: I wish American Studios could Match the Quality of Japan (GIGA)

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shevek wrote: 4 months ago
jigoku wrote: 4 months ago I'm totally agree. I speak and understand Japanese and I confirm that is necessary to fully enjoy Giga movies. Especially because Japaneses movies have lot of diologues during intercourse. It's often a part of the psychologic violence the villain use on the heroine.
With regards to SHL's reluctance to use the same kind of Youtube/social media promotion that someone like Alzi does, I can certainly understand that. However, anyone who is really looking for a 'gateway' to sexy Japanese superheroine content will find it very easy to get hooked on Youtube anyway, because there are literally hundreds of accounts posting short clips from companies like GIGA.

Here is one example, but the reason I'm posting it there is not for that. It's because I would love to know the exact lyrics to the amazing Spandexer Theme Song, which I've heard many times during the excellent GIGA series featuring that character.
All I know is "Spandexer, here we come" and "Spandexer, right on time" but of course, everything else is in Japanese.

Jigoku, since you know Japanese, would you be able to print out in this thread - once and for all - the entire lyrics to the Spandexer Theme in Latin letters with translation. I would love to put together a cover version of the song with a local band, to perform as part of a set of superheroine theme songs (WW, Batgirl '66, EW&DG, and so on) for next Halloween!

Thanks for any good help you can provide, Jigoku. The theme song exists in its entirety in this clip!
[It's age-restricted, so the clip won't pop up in the forum, but you can just click on the link.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEbhDObrga4
The same guy already did it for you…


I really like the Giga Studios for their production values. The girls, costumes and lighting are always top drawer. Just the masks are amazing. Most American masks look like they were bought at party city and held with the elastic that came with them. Being mob connected certainly would help in keeping production costs down.

I always wondered where they got their costumes which look fantastic. Just now, I came across this store on Ali Express. I don’t know if these are the people making the costumes or knocking them off for the fetish-cosplay market, but if you have the willing playmate, you could drop some serious money…
https://superhero.aliexpress.com/store/ ... h_sort&g=y
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Re: I wish American Studios could Match the Quality of Japan (GIGA)

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I've bought from Aliexpress. The costumes are Ok just be aware any accessories like boots are just cloth. Also they are very slow, like 2 months.
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Re: I wish American Studios could Match the Quality of Japan (GIGA)

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If giga did any chloroform KOs I’d buy so much more from them. Or even OTS carrying. They have hot models and now he costumes they use are great. I think I’ve only found two or three movies with chloro. Don’t even think I’ve seen an OTS one.
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Re: I wish American Studios could Match the Quality of Japan (GIGA)

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sneakly wrote: 4 months ago
shevek wrote: 4 months ago
jigoku wrote: 4 months ago I'm totally agree. I speak and understand Japanese and I confirm that is necessary to fully enjoy Giga movies. Especially because Japaneses movies have lot of diologues during intercourse. It's often a part of the psychologic violence the villain use on the heroine.
Jigoku, since you know Japanese, would you be able to print out in this thread - once and for all - the entire lyrics to the Spandexer Theme in Latin letters with translation.
Thanks for any good help you can provide, Jigoku. The theme song exists in its entirety in this clip!
The same guy already did it for you…
Yes, thank you Sneakly! That Youtuber did the translation, but not the transliteration from the Kanji. It would be great if I could have the Japanese lyrics written out in Latin letters so it can be sung in Japanese. Thanks for any help you can provide, Jigoku!
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shevek wrote: 4 months ago With regards to SHL's reluctance to use the same kind of Youtube/social media promotion that someone like Alzi does, I can certainly understand that. However, anyone who is really looking for a 'gateway' to sexy Japanese superheroine content will find it very easy to get hooked on Youtube anyway, because there are literally hundreds of accounts posting short clips from companies like GIGA.
I don't care what anyone else is doing. You have to define your morals for yourself and adhere to what you are in control of. I have defined borders I've made for myself. Just like my example of forced marriage scenarios/implied rape in popular media - I have no interest in marketing my content outside of the fetish bubble already defined for said content. Im not looking to convert anyone, I don't give a fuck if it doubles my income.
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shevek wrote: 4 months ago
sneakly wrote: 4 months ago
shevek wrote: 4 months ago
jigoku wrote: 4 months ago I'm totally agree. I speak and understand Japanese and I confirm that is necessary to fully enjoy Giga movies. Especially because Japaneses movies have lot of diologues during intercourse. It's often a part of the psychologic violence the villain use on the heroine.
Jigoku, since you know Japanese, would you be able to print out in this thread - once and for all - the entire lyrics to the Spandexer Theme in Latin letters with translation.
Thanks for any good help you can provide, Jigoku. The theme song exists in its entirety in this clip!
The same guy already did it for you…
Yes, thank you Sneakly! That Youtuber did the translation, but not the transliteration from the Kanji. It would be great if I could have the Japanese lyrics written out in Latin letters so it can be sung in Japanese. Thanks for any help you can provide, Jigoku!
BTW that model is one of their finest girls. Most of her videos are worth buying.
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shevek wrote: 4 months ago
jigoku wrote: 4 months ago I'm totally agree. I speak and understand Japanese and I confirm that is necessary to fully enjoy Giga movies. Especially because Japaneses movies have lot of diologues during intercourse. It's often a part of the psychologic violence the villain use on the heroine.
With regards to SHL's reluctance to use the same kind of Youtube/social media promotion that someone like Alzi does, I can certainly understand that. However, anyone who is really looking for a 'gateway' to sexy Japanese superheroine content will find it very easy to get hooked on Youtube anyway, because there are literally hundreds of accounts posting short clips from companies like GIGA.

Here is one example, but the reason I'm posting it there is not for that. It's because I would love to know the exact lyrics to the amazing Spandexer Theme Song, which I've heard many times during the excellent GIGA series featuring that character.
All I know is "Spandexer, here we come" and "Spandexer, right on time" but of course, everything else is in Japanese.

Jigoku, since you know Japanese, would you be able to print out in this thread - once and for all - the entire lyrics to the Spandexer Theme in Latin letters with translation. I would love to put together a cover version of the song with a local band, to perform as part of a set of superheroine theme songs (WW, Batgirl '66, EW&DG, and so on) for next Halloween!

Thanks for any good help you can provide, Jigoku. The theme song exists in its entirety in this clip!
[It's age-restricted, so the clip won't pop up in the forum, but you can just click on the link.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEbhDObrga4


Of course. Here we go. You'll see that the english translation is not perfect.

Itsuka minna yume tooku hateshinaku
Ano me ga wo miru ima kono toki nimo
Ai ni ikitai kaze ni mamorareta
Itsuzuke naretemo mune ni anata ga
Tatakau wa itsuka kuru asu no hi no tame
Spandexer Here we go watashi wa nigenai
Spandexer Right on time tatakau o ima
Kanata uchuu ni tooku kage ni naku
Doko ga dareka ga ima mo ashita mo
Yume ni ikitai kumo ni akogareta
Unagi naretemo shinjiru koto yamenai
Tatakau wa itsuka kuru shiawase no tame ni
Spandexer Here we go watashi wa nigenai
Spandexer Right on time tatakau o ima
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Re: I wish American Studios could Match the Quality of Japan (GIGA)

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jigoku wrote: 4 months ago Of course. Here we go. You'll see that the english translation is not perfect.

Itsuka minna yume tooku hateshinaku
Ano me ga wo miru ima kono toki nimo
Ai ni ikitai kaze ni mamorareta
Itsuzuke naretemo mune ni anata ga
Tatakau wa itsuka kuru asu no hi no tame
Spandexer Here we go watashi wa nigenai
Spandexer Right on time tatakau o ima
Kanata uchuu ni tooku kage ni naku
Doko ga dareka ga ima mo ashita mo
Yume ni ikitai kumo ni akogareta
Unagi naretemo shinjiru koto yamenai
Tatakau wa itsuka kuru shiawase no tame ni
Spandexer Here we go watashi wa nigenai
Spandexer Right on time tatakau o ima
Thanks so much, Jigoku! Amazing theme song.
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Mr. X wrote: 4 months ago
shevek wrote: 4 months ago
sneakly wrote: 4 months ago
shevek wrote: 4 months ago
jigoku wrote: 4 months ago I'm totally agree. I speak and understand Japanese and I confirm that is necessary to fully enjoy Giga movies. Especially because Japaneses movies have lot of diologues during intercourse. It's often a part of the psychologic violence the villain use on the heroine.
Jigoku, since you know Japanese, would you be able to print out in this thread - once and for all - the entire lyrics to the Spandexer Theme in Latin letters with translation.
Thanks for any good help you can provide, Jigoku. The theme song exists in its entirety in this clip!
The same guy already did it for you…
Yes, thank you Sneakly! That Youtuber did the translation, but not the transliteration from the Kanji. It would be great if I could have the Japanese lyrics written out in Latin letters so it can be sung in Japanese. Thanks for any help you can provide, Jigoku!
BTW that model is one of their finest girls. Most of her videos are worth buying.
Reiko Kobayakawa is her name, and she is absolutely stunning. Not only is she incredibly gorgeous and let's just say voluptuous, but her performances are always on point. She sells body betrayal so damn well.
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My all-time favorite Giga girl is Chika Arimura. Lovely as Supergirl and Spandexer IMHO!
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Re: I wish American Studios could Match the Quality of Japan (GIGA)

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+1 for Reiko Kobayakawa's physical assets and electric performances.
Also a big fan of Kurea Hasumi, and Mao Hamasaki's wide eyed gushing le petit mort.
But if anyone embodies the house style it's Miki Sunohara. As my grandfather might say, she's a pistol.

I think we all wish our home market was bigger and less uptight, but in the meantime we'll have to save up for a custom and/or learn Japanese.
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