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Maybe he didn't hate Asians, maybe he hated women.
Ah, the classic lead in to obfuscating the topic.... maybe....it was a COINCIDENCE that he went to three locations and killed eight Asian women, despite Asians only making up 3% of Georgia. Could be totally a coincidence.... that was why he was heading to Florida. He was looking for non-Asians to kill and his profound bad luck at only finding Asians to shoot....
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Ah, the classic lead in to obfuscating the topic.... maybe....it was a COINCIDENCE that he went to three locations and killed eight Asian women, despite Asians only making up 3% of Georgia. Could be totally a coincidence.... that was why he was heading to Florida. He was looking for non-Asians to kill and his profound bad luck at only finding Asians to shoot....
If you have supporting information about the case, share it. Otherwise your sneering attitude is worth sh*t. Dudes have f*cked-up ideas about women, especially sex workers, and professions thought of by f*cked-up dudes as practically sex workers. Race can compound this, or not. There's plenty of toxic potential along multiple axes. Let the story play out, in the meantime your misdirected capslock can get bent.

I guess that's one vote for garbage fire.
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After the 2016 election liberals had women show up at a protest in pussy hats. That’s how the left took losing the electoral college. Women wore hats. Who do you think the were the whining crybabies, the ones who wore hats or the ones that rioted and smeared feces on Capital walls?

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After 2016

We saw riots and violent protest , we saw attempts by Dems to stop the confirmation of Trump's win. We saw bogus impeachment charges and Dems violating the process during the hearings. We saw them slander Justice Kavanaugh with obvious lies by christine Blaisey Ford which Sheldon Whitehouse is still doing, check out today WSJ.
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Dazzle1 wrote:
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After the 2016 election liberals had women show up at a protest in pussy hats. That’s how the left took losing the electoral college. Women wore hats. Who do you think the were the whining crybabies, the ones who wore hats or the ones that rioted and smeared feces on Capital walls?

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After 2016

We saw riots and violent protest , we saw attempts by Dems to stop the confirmation of Trump's win. We saw bogus impeachment charges and Dems violating the process during the hearings. We saw them slander Justice Kavanaugh with obvious lies by christine Blaisey Ford which Sheldon Whitehouse is still doing, check out today WSJ.
Kavanaugh wasn’t about the election. He was a judicial nominee getting a life time appointment to the Supreme Court. Gorsuch never got a hearing. Show me the reports where Dems tried to overturn the election. How obvious were the lies? I knew his roommate at Yale, a very staunch lifelong Republican, who publicly corroborated Claims about kavanaugh’s behavior with both women and alcohol.
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sneakly wrote:
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Ah, the classic lead in to obfuscating the topic.... maybe....it was a COINCIDENCE that he went to three locations and killed eight Asian women, despite Asians only making up 3% of Georgia. Could be totally a coincidence.... that was why he was heading to Florida. He was looking for non-Asians to kill and his profound bad luck at only finding Asians to shoot....
If you have supporting information about the case, share it. Otherwise your sneering attitude is worth sh*t. Dudes have f*cked-up ideas about women, especially sex workers, and professions thought of by f*cked-up dudes as practically sex workers. Race can compound this, or not. There's plenty of toxic potential along multiple axes. Let the story play out, in the meantime your misdirected capslock can get bent.

I guess that's one vote for garbage fire.
I’m sorry, I guess I should give equal time to alternate theories. Maybe it was George Soros and his Jewish space laser, it was a master stroke to use them to create the fires in CA.

The evidence is already out, not the entire story, but quite a bit. Three location, all massage parlors. He was targeting sex workers. Six of the eight killed were Asians, plenty of non-Asian sex workers in Georgia. Did he have some weird asian fetish, maybe. Can I tell whether it was racist hate or bizarre fetishization of Asian women? Does it matter? He felt compelled to kill them and they are dead. Did race have something to do with the selection of victims, absolutely.

Stereo typing of people based on race is racism. Whether it is Asian women are sexually submissive or are good at math or blacks are lazy it is still racism. This was more than likely a racist crime.
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Southern white boy full of religion and hormones. Ready access to guns. Mass shooting of women/Asians. Sheriff's spokesman says the boy "had a bad day". Said spokesman had previously hawked CHY-NA VIRUS tee-shirts. Man, Murica is a fucked up country.
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sneakly wrote:
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Dazzle1 wrote:
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After the 2016 election liberals had women show up at a protest in pussy hats. That’s how the left took losing the electoral college. Women wore hats. Who do you think the were the whining crybabies, the ones who wore hats or the ones that rioted and smeared feces on Capital walls?

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After 2016

We saw riots and violent protest , we saw attempts by Dems to stop the confirmation of Trump's win. We saw bogus impeachment charges and Dems violating the process during the hearings. We saw them slander Justice Kavanaugh with obvious lies by christine Blaisey Ford which Sheldon Whitehouse is still doing, check out today WSJ.
Kavanaugh wasn’t about the election. He was a judicial nominee getting a life time appointment to the Supreme Court. Gorsuch never got a hearing. Show me the reports where Dems tried to overturn the election. How obvious were the lies? I knew his roommate at Yale, a very staunch lifelong Republican, who publicly corroborated Claims about kavanaugh’s behavior with both women and alcohol.
Shift claimed he had a whistleblower but no Republican was allowed to know who it was. The Russia hoax was just that . Ukraine was a joke, if anything Biden should have been investigated for getting the prosecutor fired.

Name of roommater, we do know that Ford's friends denied her accusations and we also know she could not identify the house etc.
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Fortunately, when it comes to the Atlanta shooter, that kid was a full-blown fucking racist who loved God, Trump, guns, and his religion. His words in front of eyewitnesses as he was buying the 9mm are what's going to damn him and get him charged for hate crimes. He's a truly deplorable piece of work.

Fortunately, criminals don't need to self-identify as a racist to get the label in a court of law and to slap him down with it as a hate crime. They can just let twelve jurors look at all of the evidence and decide for themselves whether or not he was a racist POS. I have faith that this kid will get the book thrown at him, and that he (hopefully) will get the death penalty since Georgia has been upping their death sentences steadily since the early 2000's. I would love to see this kid get the chair and ride the lightning like he deserves. No great loss.
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Shakeshift wrote:
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Fortunately, when it comes to the Atlanta shooter, that kid was a full-blown fucking racist who loved God, Trump, guns, and his religion. His words in front of eyewitnesses as he was buying the 9mm are what's going to damn him and get him charged for hate crimes. He's a truly deplorable piece of work.
Got a link about the gun shop eyewitness? That sounds plenty damning. My Google-fu hasn't been able to penetrate the general miasma for that development.

Of course, targeting women also counts:

https://www.newsweek.com/robert-aaron-l ... en-1577140
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Dazzle1 wrote:
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sneakly wrote:
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Dazzle1 wrote:
3 years ago
After the 2016 election liberals had women show up at a protest in pussy hats. That’s how the left took losing the electoral college. Women wore hats. Who do you think the were the whining crybabies, the ones who wore hats or the ones that rioted and smeared feces on Capital walls?

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After 2016

We saw riots and violent protest , we saw attempts by Dems to stop the confirmation of Trump's win. We saw bogus impeachment charges and Dems violating the process during the hearings. We saw them slander Justice Kavanaugh with obvious lies by christine Blaisey Ford which Sheldon Whitehouse is still doing, check out today WSJ.
Kavanaugh wasn’t about the election. He was a judicial nominee getting a life time appointment to the Supreme Court. Gorsuch never got a hearing. Show me the reports where Dems tried to overturn the election. How obvious were the lies? I knew his roommate at Yale, a very staunch lifelong Republican, who publicly corroborated Claims about kavanaugh’s behavior with both women and alcohol.
Shift claimed he had a whistleblower but no Republican was allowed to know who it was. The Russia hoax was just that . Ukraine was a joke, if anything Biden should have been investigated for getting the prosecutor fired.

Name of roommater, we do know that Ford's friends denied her accusations and we also know she could not identify the house etc.
Easy, and his brother was a prosecutor in NY, about as Republican as they came.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/03/politics ... index.html

You can believe what you want about Trump and Ukraine. His own appointee/ambassador testified against him. Biden pushed for the removal of the prosecutor in agreement with allies in the region because he was A.) corrupt and B.) a shill for the Russians. I guess he and Trump had a lot in common.
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sneakly wrote:
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Dazzle1 wrote:
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sneakly wrote:
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Dazzle1 wrote:
3 years ago
After the 2016 election liberals had women show up at a protest in pussy hats. That’s how the left took losing the electoral college. Women wore hats. Who do you think the were the whining crybabies, the ones who wore hats or the ones that rioted and smeared feces on Capital walls?

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After 2016

We saw riots and violent protest , we saw attempts by Dems to stop the confirmation of Trump's win. We saw bogus impeachment charges and Dems violating the process during the hearings. We saw them slander Justice Kavanaugh with obvious lies by christine Blaisey Ford which Sheldon Whitehouse is still doing, check out today WSJ.
Kavanaugh wasn’t about the election. He was a judicial nominee getting a life time appointment to the Supreme Court. Gorsuch never got a hearing. Show me the reports where Dems tried to overturn the election. How obvious were the lies? I knew his roommate at Yale, a very staunch lifelong Republican, who publicly corroborated Claims about kavanaugh’s behavior with both women and alcohol.
Shift claimed he had a whistleblower but no Republican was allowed to know who it was. The Russia hoax was just that . Ukraine was a joke, if anything Biden should have been investigated for getting the prosecutor fired.
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this guy? He believes Deborah Ramirez. This is the CNN who had been promoting Michael avenatti as the great ethical lawyer

Devil's triangle is a drinking game, I have played it. It is very popular in the southeast U.S
Name of roommater, we do know that Ford's friends denied her accusations and we also know she could not identify the house etc.
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I’m sorry, I guess I should give equal time to alternate theories. Maybe it was George Soros and his Jewish space laser, it was a master stroke to use them to create the fires in CA.
Your snarky attitude has you completely spun around. Go on and throw some more bad reductions to two-party politics on your garbage fire.
The evidence is already out, not the entire story, but quite a bit. Three location, all massage parlors. He was targeting sex workers. Six of the eight killed were Asians, plenty of non-Asian sex workers in Georgia.
You're an expert on the ethnic distribution of massage parlors in Georgia, are you? Lots of non-Asian massage parlors in the same neck of the woods? Prostitution isn't legal in Georgia, but there are plenty of strip clubs. Of course, the likelihood of strolling into an area strip club, spraying death, and getting out to hit another one might not be the same as the local massage parlors. But I'm sure that couldn't have had anything to do with it.

I'm not saying there can't, or even likely isn't, any racial prejudice involved, but our society is a toxic cocktail, and the one-dimensional characterization that was off and running with this story makes it easier to compartmentalize and ignore. We love to reduce these nutjobs to one dimension to get as much distance from them as quickly as possible, and deal as little as possible with our contributions to their formation, direction, and damage.
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Fortunately, when it comes to the Atlanta shooter, that kid was a full-blown fucking racist who loved God, Trump, guns, and his religion.
Bert wrote:Southern white boy full of religion and hormones. Ready access to guns. Mass shooting of women/Asians. Sheriff's spokesman says the boy "had a bad day". Said spokesman had previously hawked CHY-NA VIRUS tee-shirts. Man, Murica is a fucked up country.
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sneakly wrote:Stereo typing of people based on race is racism. Whether it is Asian women are sexually submissive or are good at math or blacks are lazy it is still racism.
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I hate how quickly this devolved into sniping. Can we not? People died. I'm not so precious that I think if people are dead one must fall silent and not say anything, but the contemptuousness of the way we're all talking to each other really sucks. I'm sure things will become more clear when there's a formal hearing, and a trial.
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Name of roommater, we do know that Ford's friends denied her accusations and we also know she could not identify the house etc.
Excellent game suggestion! Who is Q? He gets a lot of oxygen on the Right, what it is his name? Which part of the government does he work for? Which government?

James Roche I know is a real person, his mom was a state legislator in CT, brother was a staunch Reagan supporter who worked as a prosecutor after passing the bar.
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I do not look forward to the anti-sex-work and anti-porn movements exploiting this tragedy.
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Dazzle1 wrote:
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Name of roommater, we do know that Ford's friends denied her accusations and we also know she could not identify the house etc.
Excellent game suggestion! Who is Q? He gets a lot of oxygen on the Right, what it is his name? Which part of the government does he work for? Which government?

James Roche I know is a real person, his mom was a state legislator in CT, brother was a staunch Reagan supporter who worked as a prosecutor after passing the bar.
Her name s Leyland Kaiser
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Tempted to close this thread at this point and start a new one simply entitled "Political Discourse - What's on Your Mind?" Is everyone okay with that?
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I haven't locked this thread but I did start a new one in the Phantom Zone.

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Mr. X wrote:
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Shakeshift wrote:
3 years ago
Fortunately, when it comes to the Atlanta shooter, that kid was a full-blown fucking racist who loved God, Trump, guns, and his religion.
Bert wrote:Southern white boy full of religion and hormones. Ready access to guns. Mass shooting of women/Asians. Sheriff's spokesman says the boy "had a bad day". Said spokesman had previously hawked CHY-NA VIRUS tee-shirts. Man, Murica is a fucked up country.
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sneakly wrote:Stereo typing of people based on race is racism. Whether it is Asian women are sexually submissive or are good at math or blacks are lazy it is still racism.
While I have a pretty firm policy of not responding to Mr. X, since this post implies that my comment was racist I feel a response is required. The kid is from Georgia, hence "southern". He's a 21 year old Caucasian, hence "white boy". He's been reported to be from a strongly Christian family, hence "full of religion", and he self-identified as a sex addict, hence "full of hormones". Exactly what part of that is racist?
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Dazzle1 wrote:
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sneakly wrote:
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Name of roommater, we do know that Ford's friends denied her accusations and we also know she could not identify the house etc.
Excellent game suggestion! Who is Q? He gets a lot of oxygen on the Right, what it is his name? Which part of the government does he work for? Which government?

James Roche I know is a real person, his mom was a state legislator in CT, brother was a staunch Reagan supporter who worked as a prosecutor after passing the bar.
Her name s Leyland Kaiser
No, who is “Q” the great and powerful.... The man(or woman or bot) that envisioned Trump riding to glory on the shoulders of the people on January 6th, then the 20th, then day in March.... Well the source of all those insights about that Michael Flynn endorsed about breaking up the Democratic pedophile ring that was feeding babies on pizza slices to HRC, AOC &the Squad... You know, the secret source from the internet?

By the way, did they do a liposuction when they did the face transplant between Biden and Trump? He looks a lot more fit as Biden.
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:crazy: After the 2016 election liberals had women show up at a protest in pussy hats. That’s how the left took losing the electoral college. Women wore hats. Who do you think the were the whining crybabies, the ones who wore hats or the ones that rioted and smeared feces on Capital walls?
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That's easy. The whining crybaby traitors were the Trumper cult insurrectionist fascist scum that stormed the capital, disgraced themselves, revealed their filthiness, and deserve long jail sentences. AKA the ones that rioted and smeared feces on Capital walls.


You're Welcome.




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:crazy:
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After 2016

We saw riots and violent protest , we saw attempts by Dems to stop the confirmation of Trump's win. We saw bogus impeachment charges and Dems violating the process during the hearings. We saw them slander Justice Kavanaugh with obvious lies by christine Blaisey Ford which Sheldon Whitehouse is still doing, check out today WSJ.
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We saw riots and violent protest

:cap:
Sure, riots and violent protests cause of Trump and Trumps big lie and crazy right fascist whackjobs and jackasses.

BTW the most aggregious riot was the insurrection traitors invading the capital on Trumps say so.
Proud Boys, Oath something, Cop killers, "hang mike pence" chanters. As referenced above, the whining crybaby traitors.

Happy to help.


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we saw attempts by Dems to stop the confirmation of Trump's win.

:cap:
This is completely false. Sorry to tell you, your false information is from a group of Satanic and Trump worshippers. QAnon pedophiles projecting their doings unto others. Sad.

BTW, did you know a number of those QAnon were Charlotte rioters? And were marching in Charlotte and chanting "Jews will not replace us" not knowing that 30% of them marching were actually white jews saying the same words but smirking the whole time at the other doofuses.

Happy to help.


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We saw bogus impeachment charges and Dems violating the process during the hearings.

:cap:
Nah, completely false. What we really saw was fascist GOP senators take the impeachment oath and completely violate that oath with their unseriousness, predetermined not guilty votes, duplicity in crime, complicit with Trump, worship of Trump, and should all be in jail for this traitorous act.

Happy to help, altho maybe you would benefit from taking at least one college class. One on US government or law.


:crazy:
We saw them slander Justice Kavanaugh with obvious lies by christine Blaisey Ford which Sheldon Whitehouse is still doing, check out today WSJ.

:cap:
We saw Kavanaugh get away with countless lies (cause of GOP), sweating profusely, broken into a sniveling whiny mess, and then the corrupt GOP vote to make crazy drunk rapist Kavanaugh SCJ. The GOP is a fake, noxious party, destroying democracy and our country with their past and ongoing traitor spree.

BTW, do you have any inside info on why fascist Ted Cruz, fascist whatshisname Hawley (not sure of spelling), fascist Lindsey Graham, fascist Ron Johnson, fascist Mitch McConnell Turtle, all spread their ass cheeks wide for fascist Trump's tiny mushroom dick (as Stormy Daniels revealed) still, even after Trump lost bigly, in the honest, no voter fraud, november election? Lost by a landslide cause majority voters are sane and wanted that scam artist cult leader gone. Is it cause Melania won't?

Yes, any insight into the Trump Satanic Insurrectionist Big Lie Cult would be welcome.

BTW, did you and friends march on the capital on Jan 6? Were you in any of the videos? Which ones?
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So this has pretty much devolved into a shit show right?

"Maybe the crime was racist?"
"Maybe the crime was sexist?"
"Fuck you! Most of victims were asian women so clearly sex had nothing to do with it you fucking fuck!"
"Fuckity fuck fuck fuck cuckety fuck nut asians you fuckity yuck!"
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Think I'm out of this topic now. Nothing much left of substance.
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Has anyone considered that the guy might have just doubleplus disliked massages?
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So this has pretty much devolved into a shit show right?

"Maybe the crime was racist?"
"Maybe the crime was sexist?"
"Fuck you! Most of victims were asian women so clearly sex had nothing to do with it you fucking fuck!"
"Fuckity fuck fuck fuck cuckety fuck nut asians you fuckity yuck!"
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Think I'm out of this topic now. Nothing much left of substance.
The right wing fascism group hates woke cause they don't understand it. So a right wing operative, who does this sort of thing here time and time again, whether starting an OP thread with pretend innocuous intent but in short time shows their true intent, or starts an OP thread with obvious intent immediately (go woke, go broke), or inserting small snowball political slights in an otherwise innocent thread that then snowballs larger, always resulting in combat which was the operatives hope all along. Neverminding that the operative always comes off as the stupidest participant in the room.

Prediction: he or she or they will do it again, and again, and again.
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If U C Xmas tree on TV show
it's Xmas Activism! :christmas:

:lynda1:
If U C attractive brunette in a movie

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Don't B indoctrinated!
Cover your eyes! & ears!
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theScribbler wrote:
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Femina wrote:
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So this has pretty much devolved into a shit show right?

"Maybe the crime was racist?"
"Maybe the crime was sexist?"
"Fuck you! Most of victims were asian women so clearly sex had nothing to do with it you fucking fuck!"
"Fuckity fuck fuck fuck cuckety fuck nut asians you fuckity yuck!"
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Think I'm out of this topic now. Nothing much left of substance.
The right wing fascism group hates woke cause they don't understand it. So a right wing operative, who does this sort of thing here time and time again, whether starting an OP thread with pretend innocuous intent but in short time shows their true intent, or starts an OP thread with obvious intent immediately (go woke, go broke), or inserting small snowball political slights in an otherwise innocent thread that then snowballs larger, always resulting in combat which was the operatives hope all along. Neverminding that the operative always comes off as the stupidest participant in the room.

Prediction: he or she or they will do it again, and again, and again.
I'll say it once and only once. It's gonna be a bit harsh, but I'm gonna say it. Shouting back and forth across the street simply makes the outlier think BOTH sides are lined with rabid dogs. If the point can't be made politely, then it can't be made. When one side of the street is screaming from a frothing mouth, rejoice, when you make your case calmly and rationally the onlookers will hear you better.

Nine times out of ten, you make your argument not to convince your opposition, just to ensure your opposition is not the only voice in circulation. There's value in argument in a forum even if the person you're directly speaking to cannot be convinced so long as you're voice is being heard and not summarily dismissed. If they scream again and again and again, then it is necessarily to speak again and again and again without resorting to the same thing.
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Bert wrote:
3 years ago
Mr. X wrote:
3 years ago
Shakeshift wrote:
3 years ago
Fortunately, when it comes to the Atlanta shooter, that kid was a full-blown fucking racist who loved God, Trump, guns, and his religion.
Bert wrote:Southern white boy full of religion and hormones. Ready access to guns. Mass shooting of women/Asians. Sheriff's spokesman says the boy "had a bad day". Said spokesman had previously hawked CHY-NA VIRUS tee-shirts. Man, Murica is a fucked up country.
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sneakly wrote:Stereo typing of people based on race is racism. Whether it is Asian women are sexually submissive or are good at math or blacks are lazy it is still racism.
While I have a pretty firm policy of not responding to Mr. X, since this post implies that my comment was racist I feel a response is required. The kid is from Georgia, hence "southern". He's a 21 year old Caucasian, hence "white boy". He's been reported to be from a strongly Christian family, hence "full of religion", and he self-identified as a sex addict, hence "full of hormones". Exactly what part of that is racist?
Aaand...crickets. Poor Mr. X is pouring over his handy dandy list of logical fallacies, conveniently taped to the side of his monitor, but none of them seem to be appropriate. Do you know why that is? Because what I said ISN'T FUCKING RACIST!
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From a New York Times article published today:

"ATLANTA — He checked himself into a rehab clinic for a self-described sexual addiction. He was so intent on avoiding pornography that he blocked websites from his computer and only used a flip phone. He worried to a roommate about falling “out of God’s grace.”

Months before Robert Aaron Long was charged with carrying out a bloody rampage at three massage parlors that horrified the nation and stoked a furious outcry over anti-Asian violence, the 21-year-old suspect who had grown up in a conservative Baptist church appeared fixated on guilt and lust.

As investigators on Thursday pieced together whether and how racism and sexism might have motivated Tuesday’s attacks, people who knew Mr. Long offered new details about a dangerous collision of sexual loathing and what a former roommate described as “religious mania” that marked his life in the years before the shooting spree.

Mr. Long, whose church strictly prohibited sex outside of marriage, was distraught by his failed attempts to curb his sexual urges, said Tyler Bayless, a former roommate who lived with Mr. Long at a halfway house near Atlanta for about five months beginning in August 2019."

So I repeat - how was I racist?
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Femina wrote:
3 years ago
theScribbler wrote:
3 years ago
Femina wrote:
3 years ago
So this has pretty much devolved into a shit show right?

"Maybe the crime was racist?"
"Maybe the crime was sexist?"
"Fuck you! Most of victims were asian women so clearly sex had nothing to do with it you fucking fuck!"
"Fuckity fuck fuck fuck cuckety fuck nut asians you fuckity yuck!"
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Think I'm out of this topic now. Nothing much left of substance.
The right wing fascism group hates woke cause they don't understand it. So a right wing operative, who does this sort of thing here time and time again, whether starting an OP thread with pretend innocuous intent but in short time shows their true intent, or starts an OP thread with obvious intent immediately (go woke, go broke), or inserting small snowball political slights in an otherwise innocent thread that then snowballs larger, always resulting in combat which was the operatives hope all along. Neverminding that the operative always comes off as the stupidest participant in the room.

Prediction: he or she or they will do it again, and again, and again.
I'll say it once and only once. It's gonna be a bit harsh, but I'm gonna say it. Shouting back and forth across the street simply makes the outlier think BOTH sides are lined with rabid dogs. If the point can't be made politely, then it can't be made. When one side of the street is screaming from a frothing mouth, rejoice, when you make your case calmly and rationally the onlookers will hear you better.

Nine times out of ten, you make your argument not to convince your opposition, just to ensure your opposition is not the only voice in circulation. There's value in argument in a forum even if the person you're directly speaking to cannot be convinced so long as you're voice is being heard and not summarily dismissed. If they scream again and again and again, then it is necessarily to speak again and again and again without resorting to the same thing.
Which has nothing to do with what I wrote that you replied to, cause it was written calm and rational and matter-of-fact and just the plain truth.
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Aaand...crickets. Poor Mr. X is pouring over his handy dandy list of logical fallacies, conveniently taped to the side of his monitor, but none of them seem to be appropriate. Do you know why that is? Because what I said ISN'T FUCKING RACIST!
Bert you blocked me. No point in responding. You'll just resume blocking. BTW you seem to be upset someone may have called you racist. Now think about that when people are called fascist or racist or haters or Nazis or KKK or phobic.
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Nine times out of ten, you make your argument not to convince your opposition, just to ensure your opposition is not the only voice in circulation.

According to Alinsky its never about proving your point to your opposition. Its about proving it to the audience.
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From a New York Times article published today:

"ATLANTA — He checked himself into a rehab clinic for a self-described sexual addiction. He was so intent on avoiding pornography that he blocked websites from his computer and only used a flip phone. He worried to a roommate about falling “out of God’s grace.”

Months before Robert Aaron Long was charged with carrying out a bloody rampage at three massage parlors that horrified the nation and stoked a furious outcry over anti-Asian violence, the 21-year-old suspect who had grown up in a conservative Baptist church appeared fixated on guilt and lust.

As investigators on Thursday pieced together whether and how racism and sexism might have motivated Tuesday’s attacks, people who knew Mr. Long offered new details about a dangerous collision of sexual loathing and what a former roommate described as “religious mania” that marked his life in the years before the shooting spree.

Mr. Long, whose church strictly prohibited sex outside of marriage, was distraught by his failed attempts to curb his sexual urges, said Tyler Bayless, a former roommate who lived with Mr. Long at a halfway house near Atlanta for about five months beginning in August 2019."

So I repeat - how was I racist?
How was your post racist? Not at all and don't waste time rising to the bad faith bait of false equivalence.

It's interesting to see how that NYT piece reads with a few minor tweaks:

"ATLANTA — He checked himself into a rehab clinic for a self-described sexual addiction. He was so intent on avoiding pornography that he blocked websites from his computer and only used a flip phone. He worried to a roommate about falling “out of Allah’s grace.”

Months before Muhammed Rasheed was charged with carrying out a bloody rampage at three massage parlors that horrified the nation and stoked a furious outcry over anti-Asian violence, the 21-year-old suspect who had grown up in a conservative Islamic mosque appeared fixated on guilt and lust.

As investigators on Thursday pieced together whether and how racism and sexism might have motivated Tuesday’s attacks, people who knew Mr. Rasheed offered new details about a dangerous collision of sexual loathing and what a former roommate described as “religious mania” that marked his life in the years before the shooting spree.

Mr. Rasheed, whose mosque strictly prohibited sex outside of marriage, was distraught by his failed attempts to curb his sexual urges, said Tyler Bayless, a former roommate who lived with Mr. Rasheed at a halfway house near Atlanta for about five months beginning in August 2019."


Now, that's an actual equivalence. It's just a shame there's such a disparity in how different types of religious extremism are treated.

Let's face it, if the shooter had been called Muhammed Rasheed, there's no chance whatsoever that a police spokesman would have passively repeated his excuses as if they're facts and sympathetically told us how the poor terrorist was "at the end of his rope" and had "had a bad day".
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Aaand...crickets. Poor Mr. X is pouring over his handy dandy list of logical fallacies, conveniently taped to the side of his monitor, but none of them seem to be appropriate. Do you know why that is? Because what I said ISN'T FUCKING RACIST!
Bert you blocked me. No point in responding. You'll just resume blocking. BTW you seem to be upset someone may have called you racist. Now think about that when people are called fascist or racist or haters or Nazis or KKK or phobic.
Ohhh, you implied I was racist as a teaching moment! Well that changes everything! Thank you for opening my eyes!! If only there was some way to return the favour.

People are saying that Mr. X likes to push old people into traffic.

It's okay Mr. X, no need to thank me. Passing along wisdom is its own reward.
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By the third exchange, there is no audience but fans of bloodsport, and no discussion or nuance, just hit points chasing dopamine.
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By the third exchange, there is no audience but fans of bloodsport, and no discussion or nuance, just hit points chasing dopamine.
Somehow, being called a racist sort of short-circuits reasonable dialog.
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By the third exchange, there is no audience but fans of bloodsport, and no discussion or nuance, just hit points chasing dopamine.
Somehow, being called a racist sort of short-circuits reasonable dialog.
Yes exactly Bert. Calling people racist or nazis or KKK members or white supremacists etc destroys peoples' credibility. Or stereotyping people into fly over country, religious kooks. Or using 'merica in a derogatory way.
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Bert wrote:
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By the third exchange, there is no audience but fans of bloodsport, and no discussion or nuance, just hit points chasing dopamine.
Somehow, being called a racist sort of short-circuits reasonable dialog.
Yes exactly Bert. Calling people racist or nazis or KKK members or white supremacists etc destroys peoples' credibility. Or stereotyping people into fly over country, religious kooks. Or using 'merica in a derogatory way.
Yes but see... if someone honestly believes that the person their calling out is racist, or a Nazi, or KKK or Ronald Mcdonald than it isn't dishonest or a malicious attempt to discredit someone, just an ignorant one. Meanwhile calling someone a racist to discredit them, then retreading that it was actually a teaching moment when called upon to explain yourself is kind of dick move.
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Are we still talking about cartoons here?

Because if not, it's coming.....and you know what I'm talking about.
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Are we still talking about cartoons here?

Because if not, it's coming.....and you know what I'm talking about.
It probably should have come a long time ago MH. Pepe hasn't even been mentioned in ages.
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Surely I'm not alone in my confidence that we're on the cusp of settling whether or not Pepe Le Pew is a racist or a misogynist.
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So the Atlanta killer confessed and stated he wanted to "Remove the source of a temptation to personally commit sexual sins". The crime was not racially motivated and 6 out of the 8 shot were Asian. Just turned out the parlors were owned or operated by Asians kind of the same luck finding 7-11s run by people from India or persians.

Also the theory that he lied cause a hate crime serves a harsher sentence doesn't work cause the cold blooded execution of 8 people pretty much gets you life in prison and I doubt the state has a death penalty.

Basically this is not a race crime. It could be called a hate crime against sex workers bu its not against race. But the media is so feverishly trying to make this some race issue.
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Source your exact quote.
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