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Title : Virtuous Girl

Release Day : June 2018

Classification : Unrated/X18+ (MPAA/OLFC) - Aggregated Sexual Violence, Sexual Fetish

Actor : Pamela Vorhees (Virtuous Girl)

Studio : The Battle For Earth

Price : 37.95 USD

To Buy : http://thebattleforearth.com/virtuousgirl.html
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Plot/Synopsis:

Virtuous Girl has hacked into a company server at a location she came by from a source. Unfortunately, her source was working for the enemy and it's a trap. Minutes after she arrives, 3 men show up and they immediately attempt to capture our heroine. She holds and defends herself, but it's to no avail. Ultimately, the 3 men overpower her and the lead man injects her with multiple doses of a serum which he claims will allow him the power to make her do anything. He demonstrates this power and it works flawlessly. She's completely under his control. Before Virtuous Girl can recover, she finds herself on a live stream broadcasting directly to a stadium full of thousands of angry folks, villains, and anyone else who has been wronged by the righteous bitch through the years. It's time to watch her demise and the host of the broadcast doesn't disappoint. With a captured heroine completely vulnerable to suggestion, and a stadium full of villains waiting for the worst to happen, it doesn't look good for poor Virtuous Girl.

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Actor 3 out of 5

Unlike previous TBFE film, Virtuous Girl feature a full figured heroine (Pamela V), I personally don't like BBW style woman, and that is just my own perception, you may like her a lot but that is just not my cup of tea.

On the other hand, there are absolutely not wrong to use BBW, so the point for actress stay 3 as it was neutral, I might not like it, but you might.

Other than that, its the same ol TBFE line up, Pam V aren't exactly not good looking, nor was I found that she is not hot, but as I said, I am not into BBW so I will have to stay neutral for it.
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Acting 3 out of 5

Most of the acting is good, but in my opinion, her acting is not like other actress in TBFE stable (like Ashley Lane, Amber McAlester, Bella Fatale et al.) Star power-wise, she wasn't known in SHIP genre as well, you may have saw her somewhere else, but I don't think Pamela Vorhees are known in SHIP genre.

Overall, the acting is passable, and a bit lacking toward the end (Which she is tied down and shocked) where you can see she just jiggle her breast a bit and not scream out like she is having a seizure, she scream when the goon hit her though, so you be the judge on this.

Action 2 out of 5

Action is enough in this, and as with almost all other TBFE movie, its a one way beat down toward the superheroine.

If my count is correct, the movie have 7 to 8 minutes of action between the heroine and the bad guys, but if you want to see the heroine put up a fight, you are out of luck, after the 3 minutes mark, she is basically all but subdued. And the remaining of the action is just the bad guy dealing, the heroine taking.

Nothing is wrong with it tho, but not any major selling point either, so point were neither awarded nor deducted from it

Costume 2 out of 5

Costume is a major let down. The whole thing is store bought, worse yet, reused from other TBFE film. The whole costume is a copy from "Powergirl"~risqué costume that TBFE have been using in different variety ( Coercion 1 & 2, The Handler, Miss Power, Lady Power) with the exception of instead of using above the elbow gloves, Virtuous Girl use forearm length gloves. And probably a new belt buckle...I mean man, TBFE charge a lot for their movie and they can't even do a update or change the costume?

The costume consisted of a red leather justice style mask, white leotard with sleeves, blue stain gloves, red cape, and red thigh high boots.

Point are deducted for the same ol costume, TBFE, it's time to spend a few hundred buck to update your costume for supposedly "new" character, or reuse the old character using the same costume.

Peril 4 out of 5

When you talk about peril, you look at how satisfy you see the heroine suffer, in virtuous girl, although the level of satisfaction is not the same as with other title, it is indeed enough, not too much to say about this movie, as she was under control by the bad guys most of the time.

One thing I do not like about her reaction is that she is too willing to do what the bad guy said, yes, she is under the bad guy control, but she can still verbally defiance, which you watch her talking to herself but she never rejected the request yet forced to do it like how Amber did in Coercion.

Otherwise the peril element is okay, not too bad.
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Sex Scene 3 out of 5

There are no hardcore sex scene, all scene are stimulated, her strip dance is a bit awkward, and she had to suck a fake cock, she took the cock well, and was about somehow humiliated, but in all, nothing special about this, it has been done to almost all TBFE title, I cannot award point on that, and I cannot deduct point about that either.
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Storyline 2 out of 5

Well, most of the TBFE title have a good storyline, well, I should say okay storyline,, this maybe one of the exception.

The movie start when Virtuous girl go inside someplace and retrieve something, but it turn out to be a trap, then after a quick fight, the heroine is defeated, and basically rolled out to do anything the villain wanted. While its somehow amusing when it was the heroine who are the one suggesting what should the villain do with her, but other than that, there aren't anything that you would not see it from a mile away.

Total Score 19/35 or 2.7/5

My Verdict

DO NOT Buy this movie unless you have a BBW fetish, if you don't like BBW or have no special request for it, you will be better, a lot better off buying other title from the same producer.

With a price tag of almost 37 dollars, you can get one of those Ashley Lane movie, her movie are a lot better than this one. And I don't see how TBFE justify charging us nearly 37 bucks for it anyway.

Thanks for your time, hope you enjoy my review, until next time
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Pamela Vorhees is not a BBW model. BBW stands for big beautiful women aka overweight/fat women. Pamela is thick with curves, not fat. Please don't call models BBW because they have curves or very large breast.
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GeekyPornCritic wrote:
5 years ago
Pamela Vorhees is not a BBW model. BBW stands for big beautiful women aka overweight/fat women. Pamela is thick with curves, not fat. Please don't call models BBW because they have curves or very large breast.
I think in [MY REVIEW, I GOT TO DECIDE WHO IS BIG AND FAT AND WHO IS NOT.

Again, as I said in my review, you may disagree on what I say or why I say it, or you may have a different definition on what I say and what I think, for me, that is my definition of fat, so, please respect other people opinion.

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spikeeagle wrote:
5 years ago
GeekyPornCritic wrote:
5 years ago
Pamela Vorhees is not a BBW model. BBW stands for big beautiful women aka overweight/fat women. Pamela is thick with curves, not fat. Please don't call models BBW because they have curves or very large breast.
I think in [MY REVIEW, I GOT TO DECIDE WHO IS BIG AND FAT AND WHO IS NOT.

Again, as I said in my review, you may disagree on what I say or why I say it, or you may have a different definition on what I say and what I think, for me, that is my definition of fat, so, please respect other people opinion.

Thanks
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Nobody decides who is fat and who is not. A person's weight is not subjective. Weight is a standard fact. Pamela Vorhees is not BBW or fat. By your standards, it would be okay to say "Melissa Benoist is fat" because "I'm the reviewer thus she is fat". Do you realize how many people would rightfully be offended if I call Melissa Benoist fat? It's not because I called a woman fat. It would be for calling a person fat when the person is not fat.
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GeekyPornCritic wrote:
5 years ago
spikeeagle wrote:
5 years ago
GeekyPornCritic wrote:
5 years ago
Pamela Vorhees is not a BBW model. BBW stands for big beautiful women aka overweight/fat women. Pamela is thick with curves, not fat. Please don't call models BBW because they have curves or very large breast.
I think in [MY REVIEW, I GOT TO DECIDE WHO IS BIG AND FAT AND WHO IS NOT.

Again, as I said in my review, you may disagree on what I say or why I say it, or you may have a different definition on what I say and what I think, for me, that is my definition of fat, so, please respect other people opinion.

Thanks
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Nobody decides who is fat and who is not. A person's weight is not subjective. Weight is a standard fact. Pamela Vorhees is not BBW or fat. By your standards, it would be okay to say "Melissa Benoist is fat" because "I'm the reviewer thus she is fat". Do you realize how many people would rightfully be offended if I call Melissa Benoist fat? It's not because I called a woman fat. It would be for calling a person fat when the person is not fat.
And I thought the US have "Freedom of Speech"

Now, you can go ahead and call Melissa Benoist fat, I don't care, nor would I think I will be offended. Fat is a concept that have no definite definition, which mean it is up to one self to interpret. Also, what you said "Nobody decides who is fat and who is not" yet you are the one who said that then come at me and say "Pamela is not fat." lol, were you just hit in the head by something? lol Hypocrite much?

As I said, you don't have to agree with me, I honestly don't care, but I do have my own interpretation of fat, and the definition of chubby, as if you have your own definition of what being a "racist" (Yes I saw that on the other post) While I do not agree with your view of being "racist" I will not go so far as to say "You should not use the word "racist" because you have a different definition than me.

You may think Pamela V is not fat, that's your view, not everybody view, I have show her picture and the movie to about 30 of my friend, about 80% of them considered her as fat, so again, I don't see why I cannot call her fat when "I, PERSONALLY" think Pamela V is fat or chubby. And that is my view, and hence express respectively on my review, if you have another definition of fat, good on you, but it does not mean I need to change my own "Perception" and "Definition" to satisfy yours opinion.

So yes, this is my post, and I say stuff according to my own opinion, I don't really care about what you think of Pamela V, nor do I actually care if she is fat (as I said, I did not deduct point for that because she is full figure) so, yes, she is fat according to me, and so what? I cannot express my own opinion because you did not think so?

And lol at your decision on comparing Pamela V and Melissa Benoist.

This is Pamela V
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And this is Melissa
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You may as well compare Pam V to Elle McPherson and call Elle McPherson fat.
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spikeeagle wrote:
5 years ago
GeekyPornCritic wrote:
5 years ago
spikeeagle wrote:
5 years ago
GeekyPornCritic wrote:
5 years ago
Pamela Vorhees is not a BBW model. BBW stands for big beautiful women aka overweight/fat women. Pamela is thick with curves, not fat. Please don't call models BBW because they have curves or very large breast.
I think in [MY REVIEW, I GOT TO DECIDE WHO IS BIG AND FAT AND WHO IS NOT.

Again, as I said in my review, you may disagree on what I say or why I say it, or you may have a different definition on what I say and what I think, for me, that is my definition of fat, so, please respect other people opinion.

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Nobody decides who is fat and who is not. A person's weight is not subjective. Weight is a standard fact. Pamela Vorhees is not BBW or fat. By your standards, it would be okay to say "Melissa Benoist is fat" because "I'm the reviewer thus she is fat". Do you realize how many people would rightfully be offended if I call Melissa Benoist fat? It's not because I called a woman fat. It would be for calling a person fat when the person is not fat.
And I thought the US have "Freedom of Speech"

Now, you can go ahead and call Melissa Benoist fat, I don't care, nor would I think I will be offended. Fat is a concept that have no definite definition, which mean it is up to one self to interpret. Also, what you said "Nobody decides who is fat and who is not" yet you are the one who said that then come at me and say "Pamela is not fat." lol, were you just hit in the head by something? lol Hypocrite much?

As I said, you don't have to agree with me, I honestly don't care, but I do have my own interpretation of fat, and the definition of chubby, as if you have your own definition of what being a "racist" (Yes I saw that on the other post) While I do not agree with your view of being "racist" I will not go so far as to say "You should not use the word "racist" because you have a different definition than me.

You may think Pamela V is not fat, that's your view, not everybody view, I have show her picture and the movie to about 30 of my friend, about 80% of them considered her as fat, so again, I don't see why I cannot call her fat when "I, PERSONALLY" think Pamela V is fat or chubby. And that is my view, and hence express respectively on my review, if you have another definition of fat, good on you, but it does not mean I need to change my own "Perception" and "Definition" to satisfy yours opinion.

So yes, this is my post, and I say stuff according to my own opinion, I don't really care about what you think of Pamela V, nor do I actually care if she is fat (as I said, I did not deduct point for that because she is full figure) so, yes, she is fat according to me, and so what? I cannot express my own opinion because you did not think so?

And lol at your decision on comparing Pamela V and Melissa Benoist.

This is Pamela V

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And this is Melissa

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You may as well compare Pam V to Elle McPherson and call Elle McPherson fat.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism. Freedom of speech only prevents the government from restricting or preventing a person's speech by law or government authority. If you are going to post a review, then I suggest you expect people to also disagree with you. A person can respect an opinion and also disagree with it.

A person's weight is not subject to opinion. Weight is a fact, not an opinion.

You're twisting my words for your own benefit. I never compared Melissa to Pamela. I clearly stated BY YOUR STANDARDS IT WOULD BE OKAY TO SAY MELISSA IS FAT.
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By your standards, it would be okay to say "Melissa Benoist is fat" because "I'm the reviewer thus she is fat".
You don't define racism for black people. I suggest you stop going in that direction since you're okay with blacks being called the N word. I'll leave that issue there. These are my last words to you since you've proven yourself to be a racist and I do not speak to racist individuals.
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Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism. Freedom of speech only prevents the government from restricting or preventing a person's speech by law or government authority. If you are going to post a review, then I suggest you expect people to also disagree with you. A person can respect an opinion and also disagree with it.

A person's weight is not subject to opinion. Weight is a fact, not an opinion.

You're twisting my words for your own benefit. I never compared Melissa to Pamela. I clearly stated BY YOUR STANDARDS IT WOULD BE OKAY TO SAY MELISSA IS FAT.
Freedom of speech guarantee you the right to your own idea, opinion and yes, CRITICISM too. As long as what you said is legal (ie not libel or hate speech) That is the right you are guarantee. And no, it does not just applies on Fedeeral/State Government level, because the amendment is enact on civilian level, which mean they are to protect citizens from government prosecution with its own freedom of speech and expression. The RIGHT to free speech, however, have nothing to do with Federal Government, unless you are saying since First Amendment right applies to government only, which mean you are allow, as a civilian entity, to hinder someone else's freedom of speech and expression. Well, if so, you are going to be in very deep trouble.

I have the right to call ANYONE fat, disregarding whether or not they are defined as "fat", unless I am doing so in a negative or malice manner, that is not constitute as Libel. So yes, I can call Melissa Benoist fat, even if anyone else does not consider so. And unless I am doing it to intentional smearing her image or anything of malice, she cannot sue me for libel. So yes, I CAN CALL ANYONE FAT AS LONG AS I THINK SO.

On the other hand, I have no problem as to you disagree with what I said, or disagree with my definition of being Fat, I have a problem when you lecture me and tell me NOT TO USE BBW to certain women. i.e. the following sentence
Please don't call models BBW because they have curves or very large breast.
Weight and fat have no relation, I never claim Pam V is fat because of her weight. As I pointed out before, fat is a subjective concept, I don't have to have the same concept as you, As I said, if you don't agree with me, don't reply to my post, but being able to disagreeing with me and asking me to stop on something is different, and YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DICTATE MY OPINION.

On the other hand, you were using Melissa Benoist as a imbalance comparison, because the two character (Pam V and Melissa) are very different in shape, As a fact, I will not call Melissa Benoist as fat, but that does not mean I cannot call anyone fat as long as it was my opinion that individual is fat. Because when I see a person who I think is fat, then I WILL call him/her fat.



You don't define racism for black people. I suggest you stop going in that direction since you're okay with blacks being called the N word. I'll leave that issue there. These are my last words to you since you've proven yourself to be a racist and I do not speak to racist individuals.
And SO DO YOU, you don't get to define the term "Racism" to other people. Which is my point.

First of all, I am a Pacific Islander, and I am considered Black in Australia, and I have been called the N word before, as well as calling someone N word before. I don't find it racist. It's easy to play racist card, but as I found out, most people call other people racist in itself is racist to begin with, because they usually fall in a category called "Reverse Racism" where they point out everything that goes against their idea wrong in the basis of one race.

In your argument, you think people call you the N word is being racist, because you are black, which mean if you call a white guy racist for calling you the N word, then the reverse is true, because you only feel it was racist because the opposition is white or whatever race there are..

So in a sense, you are the true racist, because you quite obviously display reverse racism in your argument.
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Lets keep it all friendly guys
Tried to be friendly with this guy, but he gone too far and I don't like being dictate to.

I don't know, maybe he can put his own "SJW" agenda somewhere? But if he reply to my post and saying I am wrong, HE WILL HAVE A REPLY FROM ME
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Ok lets just park this whole spat please - everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone is wrong apart from me anyway, :giggle:

So just deep breaths everybody and lets back away from Handbags at Dawn
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The guy hanging from the tree is the true racist because he told the klansmen they were racist. Any chick with nice tits is fat. Up is down. Right is wrong. Correcting idiocy is a "SJW" agenda. Got it. I'm gonna go dive headfirst into an empty pool now because I have the right to say concrete is the same as water and I'll always have a reply to anyone who says I'm wrong.
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OKAY! Lets comment on the vid guys rather than each other
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Can't put much stock in a review that doesn't know what BBW is and doesn't recognize the significance of the costume.
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Can't put much stock in a review that doesn't know what BBW is and doesn't recognize the significance of the costume.
Mate, I know the definition of BBW, anyone who have watch porn and have a computer will know. and by that definition of online porn, that is a given.

In my mind, she is "Big" or "Fat" enough to be called BBW, you may have another issue or definition or come up to say to me I don't think she is a BBW, that's fine, actually, that's quite alright. In fact, I am very appreciated your post. And so does the point the aforementioned character said to me.

However, what is not alright is to impose your definition of "BBW" to my account, just because you and me have a different definition of BBW, that does not mean I should stop using my way and move along your line of thinking, I mean, can I have a different view on subject matter? I have watch the video, I think she is "big" enough to be called a "BBW" so what give you the right to tell me I should stop calling her a BBW, in my review, in my mind?

I wasn't crossed at the point he said "Pam V" is not a BBW, I am crossed at a point he said "I should stop calling her BBW". Why should I stop when I think, in my mind, she is big enough to be called "BBW"?

About the costume, the significance is there, I have no problem with the costume other than it has been reused by TBFE 4 or 5 Times before, and if you try to make a new character, you should design a new costume, not reusing the same one over and over again. Either you call her Power Woman or whatever she was called in Coercion and Coercion 2, and not Virtuous girl, or call her Virtuous Girl and get her a different costume, the rate TBFE is charging us the money, they should have enough to think of something else. The fact that effort is lacking, is what I think I cannot understand.
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The guy hanging from the tree is the true racist because he told the klansmen they were racist. Any chick with nice tits is fat. Up is down. Right is wrong. Correcting idiocy is a "SJW" agenda. Got it. I'm gonna go dive headfirst into an empty pool now because I have the right to say concrete is the same as water and I'll always have a reply to anyone who says I'm wrong.
lol, another bunch of mocha themed comment.

Do I have the right to think what I wanted? You can have your line of thinking and I will not challenge your line of thinking, so what give you sir, the right to challenge my thinking?

In my review, I say what I think, and I think that is the case, and if you have a different mindset or point toward my review, you can either let me know or stop reading that when you are on the disagreement, but letting me know you have a different view is not the same as telling me what to do or what to think.

You have the right to say "Hey I think you are too harsh on your comment on Pam V being BBW, she isn't that fat or chubby to be one" Now, THAT WOULD BE FINE. When you say "Hey, you should stop calling her BBW because she is not fat enough" THAT IS NOT FINE.

Now, I don't know where you come from, but to say the second thing is quite fascist if you ask me, that's what thought policing do. And while I do think you have the right to disagree publicly and/or privately on the definition or content I made, you do not have the right to say what I want to say is wrong and ask stop me from doing that.

Now, as for your post, we all are racist one point or another, how many of your close friend are of different race than you? How do you look at people with the different race. The fact to the matter is not that you are, but how you portrait yourself as one. I don't go challenge people on their view and agenda when they have a different view than me. Maybe that is the thing that you do? I am not sure, but at the end of the day, people like to compare oneself as a mirror, which is you are what you make yourself to be, if you think other people are racist against you, most likely you are being racist against them in the first place.

I wasn't going to discuss anything race related with him, but without even knowing who I am, he called me a racist straight away, now, either this is the term he like to use when he is in an argument, or he is an inherent racist and see everyone as racist first. Take your pick.
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Ok lets just park this whole spat please - everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone is wrong apart from me anyway, :giggle:

So just deep breaths everybody and lets back away from Handbags at Dawn
Well, people care more about the term I use rather than what I think about the movie. As I said in my review, I never care whether or not she is a BBW in her role as I did not deduct point against her because of it, but she is too big for my taste. But these people simply just don't care, they jump on the issue the first guy come up at me.

Now, I don't know about everyone else, but for me, I believe I have the right to write, and I wrote to my own taste, you don't have to agree on everything I have to say, but you have no right to stop me.

But then on the other hand, these people I replied above, does not really care how I think about the film, because non of their question is about the film itself, so I have no idea if I am trolling by putting this review up? Or they are?

Anyway, working on the next review now.
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You say you recognize the importance of the costume, and then get hung up on the fact that they used a different name. (Funny that you care more about the name used....) In this genre, that's not a valid criticism. So either you don't know how the genre works, or your reviews are a reflection of your pet peeves, which comes off as having an axe to grind. Either way, understand that both the issues pointed out in your review and your reaction to them will colour the way your other reviews are received.

Maybe if you react so angrily to criticism, you shouldn't be engaged in criticism. It's a gut-check every potential critic needs to make.
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You say you recognize the importance of the costume, and then get hung up on the fact that they used a different name. (Funny that you care more about the name used....) In this genre, that's not a valid criticism. So either you don't know how the genre works, or your reviews are a reflection of your pet peeves, which comes off as having an axe to grind. Either way, understand that both the issues pointed out in your review and your reaction to them will colour the way your other reviews are received.

Maybe if you react so angrily to criticism, you shouldn't be engaged in criticism. It's a gut-check every potential critic needs to make.
In fairness to Spikeeagle, what I think he is saying TBFE should use different costumes for different characters, and not reuse the same costume for so many characters. I think his criticism on the costume is valid whether you agree with him or not. I think it is fine to use a Power Girl costume for one characters, but it can become confusing to see multiple characters wear the same costume. None of the characters standout from each other because they all dress the same.

There's nothing wrong with judging a movie based on your pet peeves. I don't like feet and always deduct a score if a model takes off her boots. Reviews are our personal opinions on a product, and everyone has different pet peeves, fetishes, and standards.

I don't have a problem with most of his review because its his opinion on the product's quality. I may not agree with all of his opinions. My disagreement does not invalidate his review. What invalidates his review is his comments on the model being BBW when she is not. Google BBW pornstars and Pamela V does not fit in the category.
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You say you recognize the importance of the costume, and then get hung up on the fact that they used a different name. (Funny that you care more about the name used....) In this genre, that's not a valid criticism. So either you don't know how the genre works, or your reviews are a reflection of your pet peeves, which comes off as having an axe to grind. Either way, understand that both the issues pointed out in your review and your reaction to them will colour the way your other reviews are received.

Maybe if you react so angrily to criticism, you shouldn't be engaged in criticism. It's a gut-check every potential critic needs to make.
I don't know about you, character development is very important to me, when I read a story, or watch a film, the character for me have to be unique, that's where we can distinguish across different character, they are represent by a different set of attribute, be it the power they have, the overall demeanour, or the costume they wear. It never about the character name, but rather costume represent different character personality.

Problem is, when you recycle costume, you recycle personality, in this case, that uniqueness is gone, and it's harder for you to engage in the storyline, because at that point, it's simply mean it's just the same ol' formula,

Then you also have to look at the production itself, TBFE is not a small producer, they have money, means and way to create good and unique character, and they do in the past. Okay, the first few time, I will let it slide for them to swap colour of the gloves, belt and boots, but you can only accept it a certain time, after the 5th time. I am starting to think, where is the originality.

Maybe you don't care about all these, for me, character development is very important, how it can be reflected in the costume is also very important. Otherwise I would just immerse myself with bondage porn when they do the same thing over and over again.

I don't quite understand why people keep telling me "I don't know how this genre works" I have been watching Superheroine porn since 1990s when there are only 3 games in town, (Sooperhero.com, Superheroine Central, and Dynachick) I know how the genre works. Maybe you don't care about it, that does not mean I don't need to care about the costume originality either.

And finally, as I said, I am not angrily about being criticize, I am angrily about you and the other person tell me to shut up because you and I have a different definition of "BBW". Let me say this again, I could not care less for your criticism, this is my review, and this is what I get from watching the movie, you may have different experience watching the same movie, but that does not mean you are right or I am wrong or vice versa, you are talking about personal opinion. What I have problem, is and always is this SJW type behaviour that "When you and me have a different opinion, you must be wrong and you need to shut up"
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I did NOT tell you to shut up. You are, probably deliberately, misinterpreting colloquialisms that OTHER people said -- "you can't call her BBW" or "stop calling her BBW" as a command to literally stop speaking, because you're angry about being criticized and want the cover of taking offense. The fact that you can't or don't care to distinguish who said what only makes you look angrier and more dismissive.

Insisting repeatedly on the mainstream appropriation of BBW -- meaning "anyone who isn't visible-ribs skinny" -- instead of using the term in the sense of the fetish that spawned it? That's disrespectul.
Ignoring that TBFE makes nothing but commissioned videos serving first and foremost the tastes of the principal patron? That's disrespectful.

But nobody's forcing you to respect things you don't personally value. Be selfish, be rude, write reviews with nothing but disdain for anyone else's interests -- whatever, man, you do you.
Just expect you'll be criticized for it.
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Imagineer wrote:
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I did NOT tell you to shut up. You are, probably deliberately, misinterpreting colloquialisms that OTHER people said -- "you can't call her BBW" or "stop calling her BBW" as a command to literally stop speaking, because you're angry about being criticized and want the cover of taking offense. The fact that you can't or don't care to distinguish who said what only makes you look angrier and more dismissive.

Insisting repeatedly on the mainstream appropriation of BBW -- meaning "anyone who isn't visible-ribs skinny" -- instead of using the term in the sense of the fetish that spawned it? That's disrespectul.
Ignoring that TBFE makes nothing but commissioned videos serving first and foremost the tastes of the principal patron? That's disrespectful.

But nobody's forcing you to respect things you don't personally value. Be selfish, be rude, write reviews with nothing but disdain for anyone else's interests -- whatever, man, you do you.
Just expect you'll be criticized for it.
This is not about telling what or why to shut up, this is about you are telling me my "Definition" on something open is different than you, or even different than most of what other people think, then I must be in the wrong.

Pretty obvious that you do not really understand what is going on and come in with your morning paper mocha moment. Hmm, my coffee is blacker than yours and so it would be your objective to piss on my coffee.

There are no definite definition of BBW, there are no universal consensus on people agreeing to the term of BBW, so unless there are and I am not aware of my 30 years of porn surfing, that mean BBW is a self coined term which applies to one's own requirement. Now, coming back to Pam V. if she only have a large breast but slim waist, then yes, you can call I am too harsh on calling her a BBW, but did she? I am not trying to pick flaw with Pam V, but her thigh is bigger than my head, and as 6 ft tall Pacific Islander, my head is pretty big to begin with. So yes, in my perspective, she is big.

Now, onto the term BBW, BBW means Big Beautiful Woman, now she is big (or fat, or chubby), beautiful, and is a woman, now, in what way calling her a BBW is out of line?

People like you, and Mr Geekyporncritic, jump in the very first train that say "Hey man, your definition is wrong" when there are no right and wrong about a definition to begin with. Now, I don't know what that is if that is not disrespecting someone's opinion. As I said too many time, I have my own definition of BBW, you may have yours, and THIS IS MY REVIEW, Of course I am not going to use yours definition and use mine, if you think Mine is unjust, you can either ignore it, or post it and say "Hey, maybe you are too harsh and calling her a BBW" or simply "I disagree with you, I should never call Pam V BBW" That would have been fine, but to tell me "Please don't the model BBW if she is curve and have big breast", that is not fine. I would not come to your place and tell you how to decorate your house or what kind of wall paper you should use, you shouldn't come to my house and do the same either.

There is a line of different between you just disagree with me and You are calling my definition is wrong, when it is my own definition on my own review to begin with. I have no problem with the first one, I have MAJOR problem with the second.

Another thing proof that show you have not even read my review and jump onto the bandwagon is that I have already said Pam V being big (BBW or Not) does not make me deduct my point to the movie, I respect the community of people who like to see big woman suffer, but that is not my cup of tea,, and I have also said that in previous post response to one of the poster you also tanked. Now, if you still say I did not respect fetish TBFE making video to serve the fetish community.

And finally, you still did not understand, or rather, more convincing to me, not willing to understand why and what I am crossed about. You can tell me my review is shit. I don't really care about that, that is a review, I did not ask you to read it, nor was I get paid writing it. In multiple point in my review, I keep saying you may not like what I say, or you may disagree, but at the end of the day, this is "MY" review, which detail how "MY" experience after watching this movie, and I am not writing for "YOUR" experience. So you can disagree, you can even boycott my review for all I care, BUT YOU OR ANYONE HERE, DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL ME WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG ABOUT MY DEFINITION OF THINGS. Go write your own review if you want your definition get heard, I am not going to come to your post and say :"Hey stop calling Pam V just Curvy when she is also fat"

But i have a strong feeling you probably don't care about any of that, because it seems to me you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
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I don't have a problem with most of his review because its his opinion on the product's quality. I may not agree with all of his opinions. My disagreement does not invalidate his review. What invalidates his review is his comments on the model being BBW when she is not. Google BBW pornstars and Pamela V does not fit in the category.
Now, if only this is your first post response to my review.

As I said too many time, I don't mind you have a different definition or opinion about everything I said, I encourage free thinker. It is Absolutely alright if you think my definition of BBW is different than yours.

But the moment you say I should stop calling them BBW is when you crossed the line, I don't mind you think I am being wrong, that's your opinion, but I do mind when you come to me and say "Hey look at google or whatever, Pam V does not fit into BBW category and YOU SHOULD STOP CALLING HER ONE. Now, that for me, crossed the line.

I don't come to your post and tell you that you should stop defining or liking your fetishes of yours, that is the same thing. You don't come to my post and tell me my definition or fetish is wrong and I should stop using that. That is what I say. Other than that, I have no beef with you.

And finally, if you type BBW on Bing Search Engine, you see all sort of BBW woman, and this one pop up

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view ... ajaxhist=0

There are more of similar size, you may disagree on the aforementioned website as to their definition of BBW, I am not saying this is the definite definition as to what is a BBW, as I said, that is open to interpretation, no one definition is more "right" or "wrong" than other, I am not trying to say you should go with my way of thinking, but you also should not try to sway me.
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Your MAJOR problem is pure semantics. You're pissed because people didn't tiptoe respectfully enough in the way they phrased their disagreement with your phrasing. That's where we are now. You're allcapping and boldfacing that you have the right to criticize something and no one has the right to criticize you for it. Sliding down a steepening slope away from coherence.
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Imagineer wrote:
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Your MAJOR problem is pure semantics. You're pissed because people didn't tiptoe respectfully enough in the way they phrased their disagreement with your phrasing. That's where we are now. You're allcapping and boldfacing that you have the right to criticize something and no one has the right to criticize you for it. Sliding down a steepening slope away from coherence.
What semantics?

My view of BBW is not the same as Yours? Or You are trying to impose your view of what is "BBW" to me where you and I don't agree?

It was the same from me from the beginning to the end, for the 6th time, I don't care about your view as I am simply expressing my view in my own post. I am not the one that come in all high and mighty and claim "My view" is not the correct one, you are.

I honestly don't give a flying frack what is your definition of BBW, you have every right to your own opinion about something, but you have no right to come over to me and shove it up to me and say, let me quote in verbatim, "Can't put much stock in a review that doesn't know what BBW is and doesn't recognize the significance of the costume."

So, just because my definition of BBW is different than yours? Then it must be me, not you that don't know what is a BBW? That is MORE than trying to disagree with me, you didn't say you disagree with my definition of BBW, you directly say I don't know what is a BBW, which is a point you reinforced from 2nd to your last communication.

There are differences between criticizing someone, and telling people they are wrong in a straight face because it does not suit your own definition, and you are doing the latter, not the former.. It's the same as any film critics reviewing a movie, they never say the company is in the wrong not to do something or did something, they always say this is how they feel about something being amiss.


I can take criticism, but what make your opinion the absolute truth and right so that I am automatically wrong according to you as I don't know what BBW is?. That is not criticize someone, that is telling someone they are wrong to their face that they don't know something. Even so, you failed to suggest why you think I don't know what BBW is, so basically, from where I am standing, I don't know what is BBW simply because you say I don't know, was that "Criticism"?

If you do not understand the difference, then I cannot help you.
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The difference is in your imagination. You're making a huge deal and taking offense because you don't like the way in which I expressed my opinion. I cannot help your inability to let go of this distinction that you've invented in your head because you don't like being criticized. It's been a long time since I dealt with someone who took the word "wrong" as a deep personal insult -- but that's your silly trigger word and I'm not going to apologize for telling someone that they're wrong on the Internet. That's what it's for :)
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Imagineer wrote:
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The difference is in your imagination. You're making a huge deal and taking offense because you don't like the way in which I expressed my opinion. I cannot help your inability to let go of this distinction that you've invented in your head because you don't like being criticized. It's been a long time since I dealt with someone who took the word "wrong" as a deep personal insult -- but that's your silly trigger word and I'm not going to apologize for telling someone that they're wrong on the Internet. That's what it's for :)
Dude, at this moment, you are still trying to dictate what I think and tell me that "What I cross at is at my imagination" That is telling someone what to do.

As I said many times, I don't mind being criticize, but that is NOT what you are doing. And if you failed to see that, maybe you need to go back to school and try to have a better understand of "What makes an argument"

So, you are wrong for telling me I am wrong because I said so, and if you practice what you preach, you should be fine with that

LOL :smart:
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