Do you have a superheroine fetish or are you a fan of superheroes?

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I've been talking to members of our community such as costumers, producers, and writers about this subject. We have all read the debates about sexual content in SHIP media. Should there be sexual content in SHIP? Then, the debate digs deeper to softcore and hardcore being debating. It's a constant pull between different groups within the community.

This is very unusual behavior for a fetish community. I've been a member of other fetish communities, and I have never seen such a divided group. Most people in fetish communities talk about new models to be featured in videos, stories, unexplored ideas, and they agree sexual content must be included as it is a fetish. They don't agree every model, company, and movie are great. They do agree on the common things that create their fetish.

I was talking to a fan and costumer who regularly buys hardcore SHIP movies. We were talking about the group in the community who does not want sexual content in movies. If you remove sexual content from softcore and hardcore SHIP movies, then you have a straight to DVD release film. It's basically a superheroine movie, and its rating depends on how graphic it is. For example, if you remove the sexual content from White Shadow 2 from TBFE, then you have a regular superhero movie. This movie could be found on DVD or on a professional YouTube channel.

This leads me to ask the question. Do you have a superheroine fetish or are you a fan of superheroines? If you do not want any sexual content in a superheroine movie, then you are a fan of superheroines. It is cool to be a fan of superheroines in movies and comics. A fetish is a sexual desire for a particular body part, type of person, or act.
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AFIK you can have sexual desire for a particular body part, act (like you said) in a movie that don’t have sexual content.
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For me, it is a sexual fetish. But I also enjoy the movies/videos with just fighting, too. But I will admit, I am a little disappointed in the films with no sexual content, whether consensual or not. I also want to see the super heroine partially stripped. I don't want the entire costume off, because I want visual proof that she is a super heroine. If she's completely stripped, then she ceases to be a super heroine and they are just abusing a regular woman. .
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I would say a fetish is a sexual desire, so if seeing a hot superlady running around causing mayhem and getting into peril gets your motor revving then that is still a "superheroine fetish"

I don't think you can restrict this to "does she get her lady garden out? no, then you like netflix orginals"
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Once again GPC pretends to open a dialog by disparaging those who do not conform to his views and masquerading his opinion as fact with transparently faulty evidence.

The initial common meaning of sexual fetish was a sexualized desire for something not directly related to actual sex. Fetishism is not just inclusive of material that isn't sexually explicit -- it's more fetishistic to take sexual gratification from material that isn't sexually explicit. Some people with a shoe fetish just want to see shoe stuff and don't want to see penis or vagina or breast stuff.
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4 years ago
Once again GPC pretends to open a dialog by disparaging those who do not conform to his views and masquerading his opinion as fact with transparently faulty evidence.

The initial common meaning of sexual fetish was a sexualized desire for something not directly related to actual sex. Fetishism is not just inclusive of material that isn't sexually explicit -- it's more fetishistic to take sexual gratification from material that isn't sexually explicit. Some people with a shoe fetish just want to see shoe stuff and don't want to see penis or vagina or breast stuff.
You are misinformed about the meaning a sexual fetish. A fetish can sexual anything directly related to sex or not directly related to sex. It depends on the individual. Some people have fetishes for butts, tits, lingerie, high heels, hookers, strippers, etc. Other people have fetishes for glasses, ties, tennis shoes, superheroines, nurses, cops, etc.

Fetishism is exclusive to sexual content. For example, I loved playing Super Mario Bros. when I was growing up, and continue to play the games on occasion as an adult. That makes me a fan. If I was seeking sexual content featuring Princess Peach in peril, then I could say I have a fetish for video game characters in peril.

If you just enjoy watching PG to R rated superhero movies, then you're probably a fan. Thinking Gal Gadot is hot as Wonder Woman doesn't automatically mean you have a fetish for superheroines. Anyone can think someone or something looks sexy in the moment. I think Alex Morgan from the women's soccer team is hot, but I don't have a fetish for soccer players. I'm not fantasizing about female soccer players often.

There is also no such thing as "more fetishistic". No fetish is more fetishistic than another. That's part of the problem in the SHIP community is some individuals trying to say SHIP is more "special" than other fetishes. Some willfully ignorant individuals go as far and say SHIP with sexual content is not porn but something else on a higher level. That's ridiculous and pure ignorance.
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Maybe the question you want to ask is "Does your superheroine fetish necessary include sexual content?"

My 2 cents.
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For me, I would consider myself to have a superheroine fetish. While I like to see sexual content in films, for some companies in my opinion, the sexual content overwhelms the film itself and therefore at times it seems like there is little consideration for other factors such as psychological peril, unmaskings done correctly, other beats of the story. For some companies they seem so hyper focused on the sexual content that there is not room for anything else. For me, I enjoy the sexual content more when I know a little bit more about the heroine, her personality her arrogance, how she deals with people before she is humbled. To borrow a food comparison, some companies in my estimation do not offer a quality appetizer before getting to the main course. I enjoy SHP films, but porn films with women wearing superheroine costumes, not so much.
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Maybe the question you want to ask is "Does your superheroine fetish necessary include sexual content?"

My 2 cents.
That's not what I am trying to ask the community. I see a lot of people in the community say they have a fetish for SHIP but they only want a deep story. They basically want an independent production of an original superheroine without any sexual content. It would be like Don Ship's Ms. Patriot saving the city from a gang secretly operated by the mayor! She will have her ups and downs, and finally expose the evil mayor. The movie would not have any sexual content; force orgasms, sex, groping, etc. It would be like a standard movie that you would see in theaters.
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Maybe you just did not understood what they like there. There are a lot of fetishes that did not include sexual content. For an example, there is a huge demand for unmasking superheroines.
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I am not misinformed about the meaning of a sexual fetish. FFS, GPC quoted me and then agreed in restatement.

But much of the grief comes from
(1) either misusing the term sexual content to mean fetish content exclusive of non-fetish sexual content, or pivoting from one meaning to another; and
(2) conflating interpretation and intent with content.

I would like to hear GPC's definition of sexual content as he used it in his first post, as his repeated use appears conflicted about both parts of it.

To wit, from GPC's initial post:
If you remove sexual content from softcore and hardcore SHIP movies, then you have a straight to DVD release film. It's basically a superheroine movie, and its rating depends on how graphic it is. For example, if you remove the sexual content from White Shadow 2 from TBFE, then you have a regular superhero movie. This movie could be found on DVD or on a professional YouTube channel.
GPC, Specific examples, please, for clarity: What's removed, and what's left?
Most people in fetish communities talk about new models to be featured in videos, stories, unexplored ideas, and they agree sexual content must be included as it is a fetish.
GPC, what must be included? What doesn't count?
If you do not want any sexual content in a superheroine movie, then you are a fan of superheroines.
GPC, what don't those who don't have a superheroine fetish want?

--You know, at first I thought I wanted your answers, but I think now that's just setting a trap that encourages you to fixate on labels as separators at the expense of relations. I hope instead you'll consider those questions, and recognize how you're trying to rigorously define terms, while at the same time muddling terminology, fogging up your point and sowing the very division you call out.

In this case, there seems to be an expressed need to set straight people who say they have a fetish but, based on the content they enjoy and not how they enjoy it, are actually just superhero fans. What is the purpose of decrying unusual division in this community while you insist on dividing us?

I'm not sure you know how to advocate for what you like without crapping on what you don't. It seems like the only progress you've made is in veiling your contempt. --Like, it's cool, but you need us to know we don't belong in your club, we're in another club that happens to visit the same clubhouse. --Do you see how that can be offputting?

I get that you want to understand things, and people, and promote stuff you like, but you seem to fixate on the labels as separators at the expense of relations -- among things and among people. Relax your mind and let the irrational contradictory continuum of humanity flow, and you might better navigate our common ground and our baffling periphery.
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4 years ago
I am not misinformed about the meaning of a sexual fetish. FFS, GPC quoted me and then agreed in restatement.

I would like to hear GPC's definition of sexual content as he used it in his first post, as his repeated use appears conflicted about both parts of it.

Relax your mind and let the irrational contradictory continuum of humanity flow, and you might better navigate our common ground and our baffling periphery.
First, there is nothing irrational and contradictory of my statements. All of my statements are consistent with one another. I have never agreed with you in any statement. I have the ability to think and come to conclusions just like every member on this forum. Your way of thinking is not the law of the land.
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Most people in fetish communities talk about new models to be featured in videos, stories, unexplored ideas, and they agree sexual content must be included as it is a fetish.
GPC, what must be included? What doesn't count?
As, I have said in previous posts, I am not repeating myself. I have already stated what must be included (you also quoted) and I gave examples of what does not count as a superheroine fetish from my point of view.
Imagineer wrote:
4 years ago
If you remove sexual content from softcore and hardcore SHIP movies, then you have a straight to DVD release film. It's basically a superheroine movie, and its rating depends on how graphic it is. For example, if you remove the sexual content from White Shadow 2 from TBFE, then you have a regular superhero movie. This movie could be found on DVD or on a professional YouTube channel.
GPC, Specific examples, please, for clarity: What's removed, and what's left?
I gave you a specific example, and you choose to ignore its context. If a person removes all of a type of content from film, then everything under that type of content is removed. I don't need to list every specific act that is removed as that is covered by removing all of that type of content.
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Ok lets all keep it friendly and avoid any personal insults. No one has gone too far yet but lets keep it that way.
And if we need common ground to rally on lets all agree that

"As, I have said in previous posts, I am not repeating myself."

Is rather ironically hilarious :giggle: (that has to be worth a chuckle GPC?)
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My comments are intended as an appeal to all to just keep it civil and arent directed against anyone in particular (but that quote was too good to miss, my apologies GPC its not intended to be picking on you I just thought that was funny).
Its just a pre-emptive strike against things getting out of hand
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GeekyPornCritic wrote:
4 years ago
First, there is nothing irrational and contradictory of my statements. All of my statements are consistent with one another.
The only way your statements are consistent is with a decidedly unique definition of sexual content that apparently you refuse to elucidate but we can infer easily enough as non-standard, as I previously described.

But "irrational" wasn't referring to you. We are irrational and contradictory in the breadth and depth of our interests and in how we think and feel about them.
I have never agreed with you in any statement.
Yes you did. We both described what a fetish is.
Your way of thinking is not the law of the land.
*spit-takes* O the irony.
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4 years ago
Most people in fetish communities talk about new models to be featured in videos, stories, unexplored ideas, and they agree sexual content must be included as it is a fetish.
GPC, what must be included? What doesn't count?
I have already stated what must be included (you also quoted) and I gave examples of what does not count as a superheroine fetish from my point of view.


Using the term sexual content and naming one video is not giving examples. I don't think you've even watched that video -- you consistently dismiss out-of-hand everything that studio does.
If a person removes all of a type of content from film, then everything under that type of content is removed. I don't need to list every specific act that is removed as that is covered by removing all of that type of content.
Circular definitions aren't. You need to provide examples of what is and isn't sexual content when your definition of sexual content is at issue. Otherwise we're free to let our understanding of your curious position stand and deal with you (or not) accordingly. Repeating yourself is indeed pointless, but explanation is not, unless your interest isn't communication but proclamation.

Good luck reshaping the industry and the lexicon to your will.
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Uhhh...

So, ducking a hail of gunfire, I'd say I don't have a superheroine fetish as such. What I have is a bondage/damsel-in-distress fetish, and it just so happens that superheroine stuff has a lot of the kind of things I tend to like. That's whether it's mainstream stuff which happens to tickle (Lynda Carter being chloroformed as Wonder Woman; Yvonne Craig getting bound and gagged as Batgirl; etc) or content produced for the purpose of arousing sexual gratification (New-Goddess Cinema, Bluestone, the writing of greats like DoctorDominator, Femina, SecretSociety, etc), superheroines sure do find their way to getting tied up or knocked out a lot of the time.

So them's my two cents. Hear them jingle-jangle as they hit the floor.
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4 years ago
Yes you did. We both described what a fetish is.
I did not agree with your statement. You said
Imagineer wrote:
4 years ago
The initial common meaning of sexual fetish was a sexualized desire for something not directly related to actual sex. Fetishism is not just inclusive of material that isn't sexually explicit -- it's more fetishistic to take sexual gratification from material that isn't sexually explicit. Some people with a shoe fetish just want to see shoe stuff and don't want to see penis or vagina or breast stuff.
I did not agree that a fetish was only a sexual desired for something unrelated to sex. My definition was not the same as your incorrect definition.
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Using the term sexual content and naming one video is not giving examples. I don't think you've even watched that video -- you consistently dismiss out-of-hand everything that studio does.
Excuse me, how you can tell anyone what he or she has or has not watched? I think The Battle for Earth's videos are some of the most disappointing and worst videos in the genre. I developed this opinion because I have purchased a few videos from them in the past. A person must try something before he or she can judge it. I do not randomly form opinions about products without trying them.

We are all adults with experience in life. We should all know what sexual content is. Do I really need to explain it to anyone? Groping, force orgasms, spanking, rubbing a heroine's pussy through her costume, kissing, fucking, blowjobs, fingering, etc. I don't need to list every sexual act in a video. I would think most people would understand the subject's matter.
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Is it a superheroine fetish if someone posts threads on superheroine site and then "gets off" when people respond to his/her threads?
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Viking, that's a superheroine forum fetish, or maybe just a forum fetish.
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For me, I definitely have a superheroine fetish, if not, just a general superhero one. I love seeing a superheroine in complete peril, or being experimented on, and I always have, since the Wonder Woman TV show as well as The Incredibles, which never really gets talked a lot about probably because it is a cartoon.
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I'd say I definitely have a fetish, and I enjoy hardcore content featuring superheroines. But I also enjoy non-sexual superhero media. However, part of the joy of the hardcore SHIP stuff is that we get to see heroine characters in sexual situations that we would never see in any other media.

Partly it's the outfits - spandex! But mostly it's about seeing those types of characters in sexual scenarios. So yes, I enjoy porn parodies. If I have one complaint, it's that there are never enough of them, and they almost never feature my favorite character, Sue Storm/The Invisible Woman.
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Well, I generally do like superheroes from both genders, since I watch a lot such movies.
But yeah, I do have a fetish for female superheroes.
To be more precise: ...especially for masked heroines without superpowers (like Batgirl).
Sexual content is ok, but ...mostly... I prefer when it doesn't get to ...dark/evil.
I wanna see great costumes (like Batgirl from "Batman and Robin") and great masks (like the Batgirl cowl from "Arkham knight" videogame) in combination with fights and unmasking struggle. :bmbw:
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Obviously GPC is not able to wrap his head around the idea of imagination!!!! It's pointless to engage in a discussion with him!!!!
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People should be able to like what they like without anyone crapping on or belittling their degree of fetish, or making it seem like it is somehow uncool or unpopular.
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Smh. It's common practice for kinksters to play without sex, and it depends on the wants and needs of each individual whether "sex acts" per say are included in play. Even if your experience is limited to watching videos of your kink or proclaiming yourself an authority on them, there's no reason to expect tastes to be similarly varied from person to person, day to day or mood to mood.
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There are something very right about something my professor said when I was in Film School (Yes, actual film school). He said, movie (He is talking about mainstream movie) are all about Fetishes, stuff that excite men sexually, that is the reason why most film was watch by men, and majority of film critics are men.

All film sell some kind of idea, or in his word, fantasy, and when those idea pushes your button, you watch it, or buy it, it's that simple. If film was not designed to arouse people, you probably would just pull a chair outside and watch people goes by doing everyday stuff. You would not go to a theatre and watch a movie. That is the reason why most film (apart from some pure horror or pure action movie), have sex scene in it

All have their own fantasy, I wanted to see action, I wanted to see a forbidden love story, or I want to go to a theatre and scare the living daylight out of me, taste, is just that, taste, why some people like candy and why some people like chilli? Where there are 2 extremes, but that quite well define how people taste are different, and seeing a movie is the same.

Now, Fetish basically a more serious form of fantasy, it involve sexuality, it does not mean fetish is exclusively applies to sexual stuff, but rather, all fetishes leads to sexual gratification (In a sexual sense) as Oxford Dictionary define

Fetish - * the fact of getting sexual pleasure from a particular object

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries. ... ish/fetish

Which mean a person fetish is what pushes his sexual button, which basically is a drive, it does not need to come from sexual object or sex act, it only need to drive one's sexual pleasure, and that is a fetish.

Any kind of object and any kind of act can be a fetish, a simple act of woman washing dishes can be a fetish, whether or not the woman in this case wear gloves or not, or being naked or not. Or in some kind of sexual act when she wash her dishes, if a man have his button push by the simple fact that some woman is washing her dishes, that would be a fetish.

Now, if we go back to the original question, they are the same, whether or not sex act was involved, if a person sex drive or pleasure is derived from the peril element, or more often, the costume, then that material is fetish to him. On the other hand, if sex act did not turn a person on (It does happen) then that would not be a fetish material to that person.

So, basically, the answer is not in the question or the material itself, It is about the person, it is about the audience.
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Yes. Superheroine porn has always turned me on - watching or taking part. Of course the sexual abuse element is central to that, but it is by no means the only stimulus for me.
Over the years we have seen many attempts to "cash in" on people's superheroine fantasies with everything from one guy, one camera, one model in a motel room to lavish 60-minute productions by American and European producers.
During this time the Japanese have forged ahead with feature-length productions that seem to come off the production-line every couple of days. Given their regulations, genitalia and certain activities have to be pixelated, but the results can be a satisfying watch. The problems with many of them, however, is that the Japanese pander to a relatively narrow market - only a few of their products are subtitled (often badly) - and after you've watched enough of them, you can almost call out the next scene due to their repetitive scripting. Over the years, they've lost their appeal for me, although they do sometimes take an innovative turn.
So what is my Superheroine fetish? Reversal of fortune - Ryona. I want my heroines to be convincingly "super", whether superpowered or not. They need to be able to more than stand their ground in a brawl. They need to have a purpose, a back story and a secret or vulnerability. Then, just as you think they're unbeatable, they falter or come up against someone stronger, better or simply treacherous. This reversal, capture, bondage, torture and peril is what really has me going.
I have high standards, and want to see a quality costume, a heroine who looks like she can take care of herself, and one who can actually demonstrate a convincing fighting technique. Someone who cannot adopt a convincing fighting stance, choreographed fights that keep stopping to allow one or other comabatant to get to their feet, or worse, a herione who stops mid-fight to adjust her hair, simply ruin it for me. I would rather spend the extra money on a well-produced peril short than a padded out sex-fest with unconvincing characters, fights, bondage or costumes.
If the heroine has all her costume removed too soon, she ceases to be the superheroine and we're back to watching regular BDSM porn, which is not what I want to pay to see. A tortured superheroine still dressed, partially clothed or with her costume ripped open, tightly roped, cuffed or strapped, being tortured, beaten or sexually abused, having previously been all-conquering, is my fetish and my favourite moment of all is when a director captures that telling moment when the character first realises that she is helpless: that, as Christina Aguillera so succinctly put it, "makes my cherry pop"! :whip:
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For me it's actually both. While I do have a sexual fetish for superheroines in peril, I also just really like the comics. I'm a huge comic fan and yes Supergirl and Wonder Woman do happen to be two of my fav characters (in my top 5). 99% of the time I'm able to bracket the two. The reason I like WW comics is bc I like her relation to greek mythology bc I also really like greek myth and I just think her stories are really cool and find her to be a relatable character. I just like the comics. from a fetish perspective, I like the costume and think the actresses are hot and do like seeing her in peril and all the things associated with SHIP. I do like peril more than sexual stuff, but I definitely like the sexual stuff as well but because I'm also just a fan of the comics as well I think I'm more tolerant of the movies that have almost no sexual stuff in them. so that's an area where the two kind of overlap. but like I said most of the time I have a surprising ability to sort of cancel out the fetish part whenever I'm just reading the comics or watching Supergirl on tv.
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If you are sexually aroused specifially by Superheroines themselves, regardless of the inclusion of sexual content or circumstance, than you have a Superheroine fetish... it really as simple as that... and having such a fetish doesn't mean you can't ALSO be 'just a fan of superheroes'

If it requires peril to boop your snoot than it a SHiP fetish. If you enjoy watching Superheroines but take no sexual gratification or interest in them, than you are 'just a fan of Superheroines' but frankly, the discussion about how much sex should/should not be in SHiP content as made here which are primarily discussions of personal taste by individuals as opposed to 'hardset rules' are almost CERTAINLY being made by Superheroine fetishists regardless of which side of the argument they are coming from or else they would not be here on this website. If the Superheroine's sexed out of their minds isn't whats arousing to a member of this community than they are probably MORE likely to be a clear SHiP fetishist than someone who demands sex... A better question might be to ask, 'if you demand sex in your SHiP fetish are you a SHiP fetishist or just a fan of sex?' But more importantly in my estimation is, WHO CARES? Aren' they be allowed to be both if they want to be?

Our own opinions about our individual sexual identities, including fetishes, matter more than any outside cognitive opinion about ones sexual identity and unless that actively HARMS someone else, it isn't any outsiders place to make judgements about it (In my own very personal opinion anyway)....... or in other words, if someone tells you they have a SHiP fetish, and you don't think its true, that doesn't actually matter. That person is here in the SHiP community by choice regardless of whether you think they should be because no two human beings think identically and that person has decided they are a SHiP fetishist. I usually like to err on the side of respecting a persons self-actualization and only ever offer my own opinion on what I think they might 'actually be' if they deliberately ask for my opinion on themselves... otherwise its not my business to be wondering about/judging them. (Though again, this changes if I think that their behavior is HARMING someone besides themselves)

Frankly I expect that an insurmountable majority of 'fans of Superheroes/Superheroines' also fetishize them to at least a mild degree. Fetishes aren't required to be all consuming and encompassing of a persons sexual interests, they can be, but they don't HAVE to be.
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Too much thought and attention are being paid to this thread, which is simply trolling on the part of GPC. He thinks all SHIP vids should contain sex scenes and is dissing those who disagree. Simple. Well, I was getting turned on by Superheroines in peril when I was eight years old. Seeing a powerful heroine losing in a fight turned me on. I didn't know what sex was when I was eight. I'm in my fifties now, and I still get turned on seeing Supergirl, or any other superheroine, struggling in an encounter with a bad guy. SHIP is a fetish. It isn't a fetish just because it involves superheroines, it's a fetish because it involves peril. Sex against the superheroine's wishes is peril, but so is losing in a fight, or being tied up, or other perilous situations. This is not a difficult concept to understand, so GPC is really just trolling.
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I don't think that GPC was trying to intentionally be divisive about the SHIP fetish. Clearly he loves the sexual aspect of the SHIP scene, of that there's no doubt. I don't think he looks down on those who prefer not to have sex scenes in their superheroine films. Does he think such films without sex are worse than those with? I'd say for him, yes they are. But that's his opinion. True, he's very vocal about such things and could dial back a touch on his passion there but I don't think he means to make it divisive in that respect. He does seem to draw more than his share of ire on this forum. I can't deny that. As long as we keep things on a more even keel, we can discuss it all calmly and agree to disagree.

That said, I liked several of the posts in this thread and in my view, a fetish is a very personal thing. But it's not the only thing and therefore is very hard to categorize. It's never either/or for a fetish when it comes to "setting it off" and we all have a variety of them here. Costume fetishists are probably the most common ground among us. For the majority, take off the costume and you lose us pretty quick. Of course, if you leave on even one aspect of that costume, you're likely to still retain a good portion of the audience. The costume fetish is set off pretty much when the heroine appears I'd say for those who have it. Of course, in mainstream movies and such, there's only a very low level of sexual triggering of that fetish I'd say. It takes either some destruction or other misbehavior for a costume fetish to hit a higher gear in any film, be it mainstream or SHIP video, with or without sex, right? It's a tricky line that I'm damn sure every cinematographer and director knows about and carefully straddles depending on the audience he's got in mind. The fetish is there regardless of course.

Not sure that clarifies anything but that's my jingling two cents.
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4 years ago
Too much thought and attention are being paid to this thread, which is simply trolling on the part of GPC. He thinks all SHIP vids should contain sex scenes and is dissing those who disagree. Simple. Well, I was getting turned on by Superheroines in peril when I was eight years old. Seeing a powerful heroine losing in a fight turned me on. I didn't know what sex was when I was eight. I'm in my fifties now, and I still get turned on seeing Supergirl, or any other superheroine, struggling in an encounter with a bad guy. SHIP is a fetish. It isn't a fetish just because it involves superheroines, it's a fetish because it involves peril. Sex against the superheroine's wishes is peril, but so is losing in a fight, or being tied up, or other perilous situations. This is not a difficult concept to understand, so GPC is really just trolling.
I am not trolling anyone. I am my own person and think for myself. I have every right to criticize SHIP videos without sexual peril. As a consumer who buys movies unlike some people, I am entitled to share my thoughts on the genre.

This topic is about having a superherione fetish. The question is not "superheroine in peril fetish". There is a clear difference between the two fetishes. A superheroine fetish only requires a superheroine. She doesn't need to be in peril for this fetish. If this topic's subject was "superheroines in peril", then I would agree with you that the fetish involves a superheroine and peril.

Ropes for bondage and fighting can be arousing. However, it depends on the nature of the fight. If a heroine loses a fight because someone blindsided her with a baseball bat to knock her out, or a robot is shooting knockout beams, then I do not consider those types of defeats in fights arousing in my opinion.
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"Do you have a superheroine fetish or are you a fan of superheroines? If you do not want any sexual content in a superheroine movie, then you are a fan of superheroines."

"I see a lot of people in the community say they have a fetish for SHIP but they only want a deep story."

"I think The Battle for Earth's videos are some of the most disappointing and worst videos in the genre."

Unilaterally passing judgement who does and who does not have a fetish, on a forum devoted to superheroine fetish, is trolling. Dissing one of the most respected producers of SHIP content is also trolling. GPC is free to like what he likes, but that isn't what this thread is about. He could easily have started a thread by saying "Hey, I prefer content that includes sex, anyone agree?" He didn't do that. He tried to claim that preferring non-sexual content was somehow not deserving of full status within our little fetish world. He has since responded vociferously to anyone who disagrees with this stupid and pointless thesis. That's trolling.

I dislike posting stuff that contradicts forum ambassadors, and I have great respect for Doc and his fair-mindedness, but this thread is stupid and accomplishes nothing other than creating a fabricated purity test for members.
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"This topic is about having a superherione fetish. The question is not "superheroine in peril fetish". There is a clear difference between the two fetishes. A superheroine fetish only requires a superheroine. She doesn't need to be in peril for this fetish. If this topic's subject was "superheroines in peril", then I would agree with you that the fetish involves a superheroine and peril."

The same guy also wrote, in this thread:

"I see a lot of people in the community say they have a fetish for SHIP but they only want a deep story."

You can't have it both ways, dude. Furthermore, I've never seen anyone, ever, post that they only want a deep story. People often say they like some story to establish the heroine, so that we care about her which makes the peril more engaging. So you are mischaracterizing the comments of others to push your false thesis.

"Ropes for bondage and fighting can be arousing. However, it depends on the nature of the fight. If a heroine loses a fight because someone blindsided her with a baseball bat to knock her out, or a robot is shooting knockout beams, then I do not consider those types of defeats in fights arousing in my opinion."

Gee, thanks for sharing. My advice? If you see a video titled "Baseball Bat and Robot Beam Heroine Knockouts, No Sex", you should probably not buy it.
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Bert wrote:
4 years ago
"Do you have a superheroine fetish or are you a fan of superheroines? If you do not want any sexual content in a superheroine movie, then you are a fan of superheroines."

"I see a lot of people in the community say they have a fetish for SHIP but they only want a deep story."

"I think The Battle for Earth's videos are some of the most disappointing and worst videos in the genre."

Unilaterally passing judgement who does and who does not have a fetish, on a forum devoted to superheroine fetish, is trolling. Dissing one of the most respected producers of SHIP content is also trolling. GPC is free to like what he likes, but that isn't what this thread is about. He could easily have started a thread by saying "Hey, I prefer content that includes sex, anyone agree?" He didn't do that. He tried to claim that preferring non-sexual content was somehow not deserving of full status within our little fetish world. He has since responded vociferously to anyone who disagrees with this stupid and pointless thesis. That's trolling.

I dislike posting stuff that contradicts forum ambassadors, and I have great respect for Doc and his fair-mindedness, but this thread is stupid and accomplishes nothing other than creating a fabricated purity test for members.
Your poor attitude is a major problem in current culture. People with your type of opinion think critics should be quiet and are not allowed to express any criticisms to a product or producer. That's not how the world works. If a person dislikes something, then he or she can freely say it. I have ever right to dislike TBFE's poor quality movies. That's my opinion, and I am entitled to think for myself. You do not decide what I like and my opinions.

The purpose of this topic was not to bring down the community as a whole, and by community I mean every individual from every site with superheroine content for adults.

There is a difference between a person who only likes superhero movies and a person who becomes aroused about superheroines. Me and Dr. D were discussing it earlier. My best friend is a huge fan of Marvel. He enjoys watching superhero movies. He does not watch these movies for sexual entertainment or arousal. He does not have any interest in this fetish. He is a fan. I see some people in this community express similar feelings as my best friend. These people often say they want a superheroine video with a good story and nothing sexual about it. No sexy fights, no bondage in ropes, they just want an original superheroine movie with an enjoyable story. I want video games with enjoyable stories, and that is not a fetish.
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What are you even talking about. This forum is a SHIP forum. Take a glance through the new releases thread. How many non peril videos do you see?

People in this community often say they want good superheroine stories with no peril? Often? Okay, prove it. Show me five posts like that. No? Make it three. No? How about two.
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That we are, hagarb. For my money, this thread has run it's course. I'm not locking it but unless you have something to add about a favorite fetish or a favorite heroine that applies to this odd topic, I'd follow the detour signs.

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Hi, I probably do not understand this back and forth, no matter. I am a huge fan of a 'deep' story with peril. Personally, I like a strong and detailed plot line as the prelude to the ensuing violence. My fetish is erotica through a great story and plenty of peril, especially AOH, maximum exposure of the abdomen and a modest amount of blood. I hire an FX specialist as part of the crew. In order to meet my requirements I do need a custom of at least 30 minutes (half story and half peril) which takes two days to film. As there may not be much of a market for my fetish, I end up gladly paying for the complete custom. While I no longer enjoy porn, I do believe that it is a an art form to be enjoyed by its fans. As a last point, many of the posts are way too judgmental, possibly including myself.
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Jacques wrote:
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Hi, I probably do not understand this back and forth, no matter. I am a huge fan of a 'deep' story with peril. Personally, I like a strong and detailed plot line as the prelude to the ensuing violence. My fetish is erotica through a great story and plenty of peril, especially AOH, maximum exposure of the abdomen and a modest amount of blood. I hire an FX specialist as part of the crew. In order to meet my requirements I do need a custom of at least 30 minutes (half story and half peril) which takes two days to film. As there may not be much of a market for my fetish, I end up gladly paying for the complete custom. While I no longer enjoy porn, I do believe that it is a an art form to be enjoyed by its fans. As a last point, many of the posts are way too judgmental, possibly including myself.
I totally agree with you on the importance of plot and story. I want it all, story, plot, peril, and sexual peril in particular. The problem from my standpoint is that many companies focus so much on the sexual peril that it comes at the expense of a good plot or story, that for many companies, plot and story is not a real priority and thus important things such as a good unmasking or a sudden loss of power are not adequately played out.
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Talk about complicating an easy subject!!!

If seeing Deidre Hall on Days of our lives didn't do much for ya but seeing Deidre as ElectaWoman was highlight of your youth! Superheroine Fetish!

Seeing Lynda Carter in horrible 70s clothes did nothing but as soon as the spin happened you were glued to the TV! Superheroine Fetish!!

Wow! Not complicated at all!!!

And since probably 85% of people with the fetish discovered it through mainstream TV and Movies!! The porn part really isn't part of the equation in any was shape or form!!!!
Just my opinion!!!
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Bugsy wrote:
4 years ago
And since probably 85% of people with the fetish discovered it through mainstream TV and Movies!! The porn part really isn't part of the equation in any was shape or form!!!!
Just my opinion!!!
There's no evidence to support your statement. There is not any research proving how many people discovered their fetish through mainstream media.

Porn is actually part of the equation. Some people discovered this fetish from porn. This group in the SHIP fetish community seeks porn movies with superheroine peril. Not every person has the same experience in this fetish.
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4 years ago
Talk about complicating an easy subject!!!

If seeing Deidre Hall on Days of our lives didn't do much for ya but seeing Deidre as ElectaWoman was highlight of your youth! Superheroine Fetish!

Seeing Lynda Carter in horrible 70s clothes did nothing but as soon as the spin happened you were glued to the TV! Superheroine Fetish!!
That's not how a fetish works. Enjoyment of a television show does not automatically mean that person has a fetish. That person could just be a fan. I enjoy trading card games and there are many sexy female characters. Playing the game doesn't give me a fetish for magical girls or anime characters. I don't have any sexual fantasies of that nature.
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The shows were silly but you knew how it made you feel!!! I wasn't a fan of the shows! They were poorly written with sfx!! It was just seeing Superheroine that made it something you never missed

Yeah, it is how it fetish works!!! You see something that gets you excited and incorporate it into your life!!!!
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Bugsy wrote:
4 years ago
The shows were silly but you knew how it made you feel!!! I wasn't a fan of the shows! They were poorly written with sfx!! It was just seeing Superheroine that made it something you never missed

Yeah, it is how it fetish works!!! You see something that gets you excited and incorporate it into your life!!!!
That's not what you said.
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Seeing Lynda Carter in horrible 70s clothes did nothing but as soon as the spin happened you were glued to the TV! Superheroine Fetish!!
Simply watching a show doesn't make it a fetish. That is your original statement.

Furthermore, enjoying something and adding it to your life is not always a fetish. I enjoy playing trading card games, and these games are part of my life. However, I do not have a fetish for these games.

Many years ago I watched one of the first Avenger movies. I enjoyed the movie, but I did not have a fetish for superheroines at that moment in my life. I was simply a happy viewer.
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Just wow!! Trying to be desceat!! Using words like excited instead of crude words was apparently too much!!!

So I am guessing you don't have a Superheroine fetish at all! Scarlett Johansson in skin tight neoprene didn't register?? You must been looking at your Pchu cards!
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Bugsy wrote:
4 years ago
Just wow!! Trying to be desceat!! Using words like excited instead of crude words was apparently too much!!!

So I am guessing you don't have a Superheroine fetish at all! Scarlett Johansson in skin tight neoprene didn't register?? You must been looking at your Pchu cards!
Why must I find her attractive? I think for myself and am honest about what arouses me. If I found her attractive, I may have been focused on the story instead of the sex appeal.

Saying "excited" can be looked at from two different contexts in this topic. First, excited to watch the show. Second, excited as in aroused. Now you're backpedaling.
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There is no back peddling it's called clarification!!! Since you completely missed what I was saying!!! Yet again!!!!
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Mr. GPC, before the Avenger movie, there was a British TV show called 'The Avengers'. The female leads; Honor Blackman and and later Diana Rigg were dressed in black leather catsuits. That for me was highly erotic and my first and long lasting fetish.
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GeekyPornCritic wrote:
4 years ago
That's not how a fetish works. Enjoyment of a television show does not automatically mean that person has a fetish. That person could just be a fan. I enjoy trading card games and there are many sexy female characters. Playing the game doesn't give me a fetish for magical girls or anime characters. I don't have any sexual fantasies of that nature.
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Well, that's very depends IMO.

Whether or not watching a TV show is fetish depends on how and why you watch the TV show. If someone can be sexually aroused by certain part of Lois Lane, and only watch Superman (or small Ville?), that would make that part of Lois Lane fetish to that person, while you and me may not be aroused by Lois Lane, says, ankle, but that does not mean her ankle was not a fetish for someone. (Although I do get a little bit turn on by Clark Kent butt...)

I personally know people who have fetishes across a line of TV character, Jessica Rabbit is a very classic example, then those TV show is a fetish material to them, but for me, I watched superman because of the story, then that would just be entertainment for me, but not a fetish.

Hope that help

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