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by Bert
1 year ago
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Chick Fight

Um, did anyone know this was in the works? It looks freaking awesome!


by tallyho
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

He's had nothing to do with it. Astrozeneca have a potential vaccine within 9 months of the outbreak and they are British. ALL governments globally abandoned the red tape. He's nothing special. Pfizer were funded by German government
by five_red
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

So you're saying all the areas where they have brought in mandatory mask wearing since March and the R rate falls... is coincidental? Vox recently wrote a roundup of the various studies that compared data from counties in the US that implemented a mask mandate, and those that didn't. The results ar...
by Femina
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

The issue around the persecution of "anti-maskers" is they're quite correct. No the issue around the 'persecution' of "anti-maskers" is... They're killing people, and pretending either willfully or ignorantly like this isn't a global disaster. The 'issue' is, anti-maskers are fu...
by Femina
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

The anti-maskers as you call them are simply not sheep. And the numbers show the masks are not working. The US has an 88% compliance rate for maskes. DCD said if we were above 80% things would be fine. These people are not causing any spike. I didn't coin that? I didn't even bring that up. I was re...
by Femina
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

November's spike is just Thanksgiving. It was an INEVITABLE spike. Certainly California's November spike is little different from everyone else this month. November's numbers aren't comparable with the numbers based in months where the holidays aren't tempting people to be stupid. We're into DEEP Ho...
by tallyho
1 year ago
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Most if not all there were wearing masks (particularly in the Biden victory gatherings) and it was criticised at the time but was mostly spontaneous taking to the streets rather than organised planned events often INDOORS in deliberate violation of the medical advice your own administration was putt...
by Femina
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

I should add to the above - yes, we absolutely need sensible measures in place. Mask wearing, if it makes you feel better - but it's doing very little. Social distancing, increased hygiene standards society-wide, and maintaining changes to work culture to continue limited contact are all sensible m...
by Bert
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

For anyone under 50 without comorbidities, the risk of a negative outcome from taking a vaccine is sufficient (when compared to the small risk of negative virus outcomes) that there's not really any good reason they should take one... As a general rule, arguing with swampy is like punching yourself...
by Femina
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

The UK government have done an impeccable job of spreading fear-inducing propaganda. Which has done its job and driven people to follow the rules. Well I'm American, and in America apparently all telling people they should be afraid of the virus has done is make them double down on stupid behavior....
by Bert
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

Unfortunately, here in America politicians from both parties have chosen to politicize the disease from early on. This is bothsideism at its worst. I see one party, the Democrats, advocating listening to doctors and scientists. I see the Republicans from Trump on down ignoring the advice of their o...
by Femina
1 year ago
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Second they have been the most hypocritical in two standards. They can travel and get their hair down or eat at restaurants, but no one else can. Can you really say this with a straight face when Donald Trump acts as a counterargument simply by nature of existing? The guy is the biggest hypocritica...
by tallyho
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

_20201204_083418.JPG Sugarcoater - don't you feel after 4 years of constant lies, half truths and corruption, Trump has exhausted any benefit of the doubt? You talk as if the liberal press have an aggressive agenda against him yet it is the entire global press corps that are making the same reporti...
by Femina
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

Second they have been the most hypocritical in two standards. They can travel and get their hair down or eat at restaurants, but no one else can. Can you really say this with a straight face when Donald Trump acts as a counterargument simply by nature of existing? The guy is the biggest hypocritica...
by Imagineer
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

The prejudice against Donnie is completely earned. He is a malignant narcissist with a public record decades long. That doesn't mean his actions can't produce any positive result, and even the not-by-any-reasonable-definition "liberal" media has dutifully reported the occasional positive r...
by Damselbinder
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

"Which means Giuliani can do whatever he likes, and is immune to all criticism forever, regardless of what he does." I mean, if I had to simp for someone I don't know that I'd pick Rudy Giuliani but uh, you do you, man.
by tallyho
1 year ago
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20 years ago he cared about his fellow Americans , now, as evidenced by his behaviour , not so much
by Bert
1 year ago
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Dazzle1 wrote: 1 year ago No but , it seems that all the media does is protect the Dems who are responsible for most of the deaths: Cuomo, Pelsoi , Newsome etc.
Clearly, arguing with someone who makes a statement like that is pointless. There is nothing to be gained. Ignore it.
by tallyho
1 year ago
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"Which means Giuliani can do whatever he likes, and is immune to all criticism forever, regardless of what he does." I mean, if I had to simp for someone I don't know that I'd pick Rudy Giuliani but uh, you do you, man. No but , it seems that all the media does is protect the Dems who are...
by Imagineer
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

"a Covid only relief bill." Convenient made-up term to gloss over the fact that Mitch has been sitting on his hands for months.
by JohnFeer
1 year ago
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Actually a second stimulus bill was sent to the US Senate in May, neither Senator McConnell nor the White House took any notice since they needed to foist some weird Notre Dame Cheerleader on the Supreme Court.
by tallyho
1 year ago
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You must see there's a difference between the odd lapse (and I agree going for a haircut was stupid) and the day in day out breaking of your own health guidelines. It's like comparing someone who crashed their car in an accident and killed someone with Ted Bundy. Yes they both killed people but one ...
by Imagineer
1 year ago
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Dazzle1 wrote: 1 year ago The Senate and President proposed a covid only bill. Nancy now is for a bill with less money, because Biden got elected.
"covid only bill" is mendacious nonsense.
by Damselbinder
1 year ago
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The Senate and President proposed a covid only bill. Nancy now is for a bill with less money, because Biden got elected. "covid only bill" is mendacious nonsense. No it is what is needed. There is no need to fund cities that were in trouble because of their pension obligations before Covi...
by Damselbinder
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

Okay

"the economy grew under Trump" does not mean "the economy shrank under Obama". The one does not logically imply the other.

You... do understand that, right?
by tallyho
1 year ago
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But it's just a continuation of the Obama recovery. He didn't get any policy changes through in the first 9 months of his presidency yet still the economy boomed and he happily took the credit for it. His tax breaks for the rich go on until 2032 I believe but the tax breaks for the poor that was tac...
by tallyho
1 year ago
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But the guy whose incompetence has actually killed 285,000, you must be really rooting for him to be prosecuted for mass murder then. After all you have forensic evidence in 285,000 graves and growing. As for the recovery under Obama even your Messiah Trump didn't deny that it had happened, he just ...
by five_red
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

Okay "the economy grew under Trump" does not mean "the economy shrank under Obama". The one does not logically imply the other. You... do understand that, right? The economy crashed under George W Bush, largely caused by reckless activity in the investment banking markets after ...
by Bert
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

The simple truth of national level economics is that you borrow money to stimulate the economy when bad times hit. When times are good you reduce spending to get debt under control and prepare for the next downturn. Bush and then Obama did their part by borrowing massively to bail out a seriously da...
by Imagineer
1 year ago
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The Senate and President proposed a covid only bill. Nancy now is for a bill with less money, because Biden got elected. "covid only bill" is mendacious nonsense. No it is what is needed. There is no need to fund cities that were in trouble because of their pension obligations before Covi...
by tallyho
1 year ago
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Those numbers in the twitter post are interesting, but to put them in perspective a little bit, over 1700 people a day die from heart disease in the United States. It would also be interesting to see other daily death statistics from things like car accidents, etc. Over 7500 people die every day in...
by tallyho
1 year ago
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Washington Post - Oct 23 2020 A powerful argument for wearing a mask, in visual form CDC gov - Jul 24 2020 CDC calls on Americans to wear masks to prevent COVID-19 spread Forbes - Nov 23, 2020 Why Are Covid-19 Cases Increasing? Here Are 7 Reasons That's fine Scribbler but nothing here is showing wh...
by Bert
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

covid map.jpg Look at this map and then keep telling us how America is doing everything it can to contain the pandemic. A few Baltic states, the Republic of Georgia and Lithuania are doing a bit worse than America in per capita infections. You're not quite number one, but you're close. The truth is...
by tallyho
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

Yeah he's totally committed to solving it.
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by five_red
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

Well if we're posting videos, then I guess it is what it is...



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by Bert
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

The map shows the per capita infection rates by country. The U.S. and a handful of other countries are in the highest category. It could not be less misleading. The United States is doing an abysmal job of containing the spread of this pandemic. A classist tool to attack some party? Is that supposed...
by tallyho
1 year ago
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As an absolutely bare minimum, he should be reinforcing the health message of his own administration day in, day out. Each day SOMEONE would listen, even if it's only a handful, it's a win as that's one less cluster of people who are openly susceptible to the virus, so the situation is better. Found...
by tallyho
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

And you are so TDS addled you blame Trump for a China developed virus. No one blames Trump FOR the virus. America's half assed response and throwing away the mechanisms you had in place to stop it, and the subsequent sky rocketing death toll, that's TOTALLY on him. The idea that it would somehow ha...
by Imagineer
1 year ago
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He didn't create the virus. Like he didn't create a hurricane.
But his toolset is that of a stupid five year old.
by Femina
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

biogen conference a super spreader. The virus can determine politics And you are so TDS addled you blame Trump for a China developed virus. Stop blaming the Chinese for Nature. Nobody developes viruses in real life, you know why? Cause that's stupid Umbrella corporation nonsense. Developing a virus...
by Femina
1 year ago
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Inadvertently, sure. China did indeed create and invent COVID-19 though, no question about it. This was quintessentially a human, man made disaster, not mother nature. A decidedly unnatural disaster for sure. I don't do this a lot on forums and shit but... I'm gonna need a citation on that, most pr...
by five_red
1 year ago
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Inadvertently, sure. China did indeed create and invent COVID-19 though, no question about it. This was quintessentially a human, man made disaster, not mother nature. A decidedly unnatural disaster for sure. The genome of Covid-19 was decoded pretty early on and it's RNA shows no signs of gene spl...
by Femina
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Inadvertently, sure. China did indeed create and invent COVID-19 though, no question about it. This was quintessentially a human, man made disaster, not mother nature. A decidedly unnatural disaster for sure. Hmmm. Create and invent? So like, they purposely, scientifically developed and then releas...
by Bert
1 year ago
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"President Trump held a news conference Tuesday to celebrate the vaccine and credit his own work in making the advances possible. In particular, Trump has repeatedly credited the White House’s Operation Warp Speed initiative with providing the money and resources the government and private comp...
by tallyho
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

Sure please explain to me how golfing helps, would love to hear it. Trump is going to save millions of lives You are correct he will, the second he walks out of office. I would contend that having AN ice cream and the, what 20 MINS?, that entails, has less of an impact than playing 30 plus rounds o...
by Imagineer
1 year ago
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Dazzle1 wrote: 1 year ago The Fed passed a bill, but in Mass ,CA and NY, the aid when to politically connected companies and none to the self employed
Source -- especially for "none to the self employed."
Did no funds go to politically connected companies in any other states?
by five_red
1 year ago
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Actually that is new. We did have absentee ballots in the past but the person had to confirm identity to get one. Way different than nevada just mailing a bunch of ballots to anyone who owned a house in Nevada and people possibly double voting. First used in the USA during the civil war, postal vot...
by five_red
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As they do, China does, Israel does, France does, as Saudis does.... etc etc etc every single election cycle. Saudis gave millions to Hillary's campaign in 2016. No they didn't coz that would be massively illegal under US election law, and would spark a major diplomatic incident. Indeed I'm pretty ...
by Bert
1 year ago
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Re: Living in the shadow of the corona virus

At the risk of being redundant, I'm going to say it again. Just don't engage with Mr. X and Dazzle. Why invest the time in doing a point by point refutation of the unhinged stuff they post? You're not going to change their minds and they'll just come back with even more unhinged arguments in respons...