What is happening to Melissa Benoist's breasts?

[JennyFromTheBlock]

In season two her boobs have gotten so much smaller that it is noticeable. Did she get a breast reduction or is her physical training for the show shrinking her assets?

She has never been volumptuous, but seriously the Super-S is looking a little defeated in Season Two.

Her legs have never looked better though, if only we would get some up-skirts again like we did in Season One.

[Philo Hunter]

Could be that they were padding the costume last season and just not doing that now.

[Mr. X]

Or maybe they added padding in 2 cause she gets knocked around a lot. Could also be for PC reasons. There isn't a whole lotta boobage on that show. Even the villainesses don't show a lot. I think Brainiac had some skimpy outfit but that's about all. Given the current PC route of the show my guess is the later that they don't want her to be a sex object of any kind. Linda Carter was the largest cup size to appear on that show and the UN is criticizing her as Wonder Woman for being "too big". Prudes.

But of course lets have hot dudes with broad chests and muscles who people can SHIP about. Olsen, Superman, Mon el, Jonn.

In fact there ain't a whole lotta hetero ANYTHING going on with that show. So apparently if one group comes out of a closet another group has to go into a closet. Any bets Superman will turn out to be gay?

[Philo Hunter]

In fact there ain't a whole lotta hetero ANYTHING going on with that show. So apparently if one group comes out of a closet another group has to go into a closet. Any bets Superman will turn out to be gay?

First of all did it ever accuse to you that the show is target at HETERO WOMEN, who 1) don't want to see their non-porn shows overly sexualized, and 2) might enjoy the eye candy of seeing attractive men? Like, that's a pretty fucking big no brianer, I don't even know why you thought to bring male gays into it.

Also, having ONE fucking show which is NOT created for sexual titilation NOT have tramped out female characters is not the end of the goddamned world. If you want to see scantily clad women there are still PLENTY of other shows on tv. Or, you know, if you want to look at porn and overly sexualized women just look at fucking porn.

[rizoboy]

Nah I'm pretty convinced there's always an underlying Puritanism in American society. Now it comes in the shape of liberal freak out. They can't seem to shake it.

[Philo Hunter]

Nah I'm pretty convinced there's always an underlying Puritanism in American society. Now it comes in the shape of liberal freak out. They can't seem to shake it.

Or, I mean, just throwing this out again: but MAYBE the show isn't targeted at horny dudes looking for softcore porn. Maybe it's JUST an action show for women that don't want to see hyper sexualized female characters.

If any one seems like they are having a "freak out" it's the male viewers that seem outraged that not EVERY geeky show is targeted at them now. Get over it, you still have plenty of other shows to perv to. And you have pretty much the WHOLE internet for pervy things.

[Abductorenmadrid]

I suspect that to create the visual illusion of a physical difference between Kara and Supergirl SE01s costume was padded a little. Possibly that was there to also accommodate body double/ stunt double differences from MB too? At any rate I don't think there is a set definition of what "Supergirl" is physically meant to be beyond some commonly accepted preconceptions. As for the version they have presented us I will happily keep the fun, expressive, capable actress that MB is in favour of anyone who who might be considered better eye candy. As for any physical changes MB may have opted to make to herself, perceived or otherwise those are a personal matter for her.

[Philo Hunter]

I suspect that to create the visual illusion of a physical difference between Kara and Supergirl SE01s costume was padded a little. Possibly that was there to also accommodate body double/ stunt double differences from MB too? At any rate I don't think there is a set definition of what "Supergirl" is physically meant to be beyond some commonly accepted preconceptions. As for the version they have presented us I will happily keep the fun, expressive, capable actress that MB is in favour of anyone who who might be considered better eye candy. As for any physical changes MB may have opted to make to herself, perceived or otherwise those are a personal matter for her.

A round of applause for you!

[Mr. X]

Or, I mean, just throwing this out again: but MAYBE the show isn't targeted at horny dudes looking for softcore porn. Maybe it's JUST an action show for women that don't want to see hyper sexualized female characters.

If any one seems like they are having a "freak out" it's the male viewers that seem outraged that not EVERY geeky show is targeted at them now. Get over it, you still have plenty of other shows to perv to. And you have pretty much the WHOLE internet for pervy things.

^^^

Yup this right there.

[Heroine Addict]

Or maybe they added padding in 2 cause she gets knocked around a lot. Could also be for PC reasons. There isn't a whole lotta boobage on that show. Even the villainesses don't show a lot. I think Brainiac had some skimpy outfit but that's about all. Given the current PC route of the show my guess is the later that they don't want her to be a sex object of any kind. Linda Carter was the largest cup size to appear on that show and the UN is criticizing her as Wonder Woman for being "too big". Prudes.

But of course lets have hot dudes with broad chests and muscles who people can SHIP about. Olsen, Superman, Mon el, Jonn.

In fact there ain't a whole lotta hetero ANYTHING going on with that show. So apparently if one group comes out of a closet another group has to go into a closet. Any bets Superman will turn out to be gay?

Well, I and a lot of other people on this forum find Melissa very sexy. Big tits don't float my boat, but I do have a thing for slender girls in dark tights, leather boots and short skirts. So Melissa in that costume appeals to me.

You may not get much in the way of cleavage, but I get nylon upskirts aplenty.

From your own work, it seems you have a thing for women with huge beachball tits in skimpy bikinis. Which don't do a thing for me.

Neither of us is in a position to say what's objectively sexy. It's all a matter of preference.

[Mr. X]

From your own work, it seems you have a thing for women with huge beachball tits in skimpy bikinis. Which don't do a thing for me.

Neither of us is in a position to say what's objectively sexy. It's all a matter of preference.

Strawman. Simply noting the lack of something does not mean I want the whole show to be that way. Stop looking for a fight that isn't there.

[Mr. X]

if you want to look at porn and overly sexualized women just look at fucking porn.

You do know that at least part of the purpose of this forum is porn and naughty fun? Right? Isn't this THE "fucking porn" place you're referring to?

Why are you white knighting? So should everyone now be afraid to post a naughty fun opinion here cause you, the champion of social justice, will come and grind them into the dirt?

You do know there are dozens of Supergirl fan forums that don't have pictures of Melissa tied up with tentacles and her shirt torn open?

Why are you here if this stuff is so offensive for you? Its naughty fun. Did the forum change?

[ksire_99]

Is this going to be the new hot topic?

Hose vs Bare Legs
C+ Cup vs C- Cup

Visual Proof of what your preference is required.

[Philo Hunter]

if you want to look at porn and overly sexualized women just look at fucking porn.

You do know that at least part of the purpose of this forum is porn and naughty fun? Right? Isn't this THE "fucking porn" place you're referring to?

Why are you white knighting? So should everyone now be afraid to post a naughty fun opinion here cause you, the champion of social justice, will come and grind them into the dirt?

You do know there are dozens of Supergirl fan forums that don't have pictures of Melissa tied up with tentacles and her shirt torn open?

Why are you here if this stuff is so offensive for you? Its naughty fun. Did the forum change?

Your always so quick to say other people are straw manning you, but your post is almost nothing but assumptions.

Yes, I understand that PARTS of this site is dedicated to fetish material. I contribute to some of the filthiest, kinkiest stuff on it. But this conversation is not about a program intended to be a fetish program. How hard is that to get? You and the original poster seemed outraged (and if your not perhaps look back at what you wrote and think about why I would think that) that a mainstream show targeted at women and not meant to be for fetish purposes would shockingly not have sexualized/revealing costumes. No where did I say the character Supergirl shouldn't be fantasized about and sexualized, all I said is that THIS version of her on THIS program isn't the place for it and it shouldn't surprise you or bother you that it isn't.

I love dirty, filthy, superheroine themed porn. I write it for a living and occasionally make comics as well. But I, and MANY people in the world, like to keep my sexy time and my normal media consumption separate, and yes those of us who enjoy aspects of our life being none sexual are going to push back against those who to us seem to be demanding ALL media be overtly sexual. We will fight for a space for the kind of media we want to consume. I do NOT find the porn on this sigte offense, if I did I wouldn't be a content creator here and other places. What I find distasteful is people throwing hissyfits when a form a media that is NOT being created for fetish/masturbatory purposes is not full of revealing sexy porn-like fetish material.

And of course no one should be afraid to post their opinions, here or on any other place dedicated to discussion. But you seem to be suggesting that any kind of push back against an opinion or attitude I find distasteful to be some form of censorship. ITS NOT. Put on your big boy pants and learn to deal with disagreement and criticism, or go somewhere where the communication is one way and not a back and forth.

Lastly I'm not even going to respond to the "whiteknighting" nonsense. I don't by into your ridiculous political world view and don't really see it even worth engaging with. You've shown over and over again that no argument is going to change your mind, in fact I'm not really even writing to respond "at you" but rather to engage in an over all conversation for others to see and join in on.

[theScribbler]

Could someone post some pics from Supergirl season 1 and season 2 that demonstrate this smaller Melissa boobs phenomenon cause, while I'm usually observant about some things, I've not noticed. Maybe I've been looking at her thighs and face too much.


My smilie is way better than yours


Yep. No fun being bald supergirl

[Mr. X]

Could someone post some pics from Supergirl season 1 and season 2 that demonstrate this smaller Melissa boobs phenomenon cause, while I'm usually observant about some things, I've not noticed. Maybe I've been looking at her thighs and face too much.


My smilie is way better than yours


Yep. No fun being bald supergirl

I agree. Can we see a comparison? I'm sure the suit probably changed from say se1 to around s1e3 as the show settled in but is there a comparison somewhere?

[Mr. X]

But you seem to be suggesting that any kind of push back against an opinion or attitude I find distasteful to be some form of censorship.

Quite frankly your response wasn't push back. It was angry replying.

This is your first reply to my post

Also, having ONE fucking show which is NOT created for sexual titilation NOT have tramped out female characters is not the end of the goddamned world. If you want to see scantily clad women there are still PLENTY of other shows on tv. Or, you know, if you want to look at porn and overly sexualized women just look at fucking porn.

Why the anger? Using phrases like "tramped out females"? So was Linda Carter "tramped out"? "Yvonne Craig"?

Look at the words you used.
goddamned
fucking
fucking porn
tramped out female
overly sexualized women

How is that mere push back? What is with the anger? Was this necessary? How is more cleavage = tramps, porn, over sexualized? And plenty of people like her legs... is that overly sexualized?

Also there are plenty of shows that cater to women and LGBT. True blood, Vampire diaries, Supernatural, heck I'd even put Walking Dead into that category. In fact name one show that is what you THINK I am asking for? I'm curious.

[tallyho]

Yes lets all just chill and look at comparison shots of Melissa's boobies

[ksire_99]

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[Mr. X]

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Here's a season one pic. I'm not seeing any difference. In fact the season 2 suit looks less bulky in the arms.

[ksire_99]

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24895&p=114780&hili ... rl#p114780
Here's a season one pic. I'm not seeing any difference. In fact the season 2 suit looks less bulky in the arms.

Are you saying Supergirl's arms are deflating too!

Blasphemy

[tallyho]

Man those are so much better than the one I found

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[ksire_99]

I can see why the girl on the left is not happy, her melons are uneven!

[Femina]

I guess there's a TINY difference? I would guess it's that she is working out and keeping in shape for the show. As a former gymnast I can assure everyone, that to be in top physical condition comes at a direct cost in breast size. I got super excited when I was 19 because my breasts were really coming in for the first time. You don't get to be both fit and have huge boobs. It's against the laws of nature.

That'd like... break the time space continuum or something.

[aerosmith]

I love knowing she wears multiple sets of tights at a time!

[tallyho]

I love knowing she wears multiple sets of tights at a time!

It gets cold in Toronto

[tallyho]

Ok this isn't quite the answer I hoped it would be from the title but its still fun and just shows that time changes us all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e4jcgXTeWI

[Philo Hunter]

@Mr. X: I'm glad to see the conversation has moved on from our little pissing match, so I'm going to just bow out before I derail it again. I think we're always going to but heads in threads together, so I'm just going to add you to my ignore list so I'm not tempted to engage with you or be "outraged" by your comments any more. I suspect you'd be happier if you did the same thing to me and a few of the other posters you think are ruining this site for you.

[rizoboy]

The problem is it's not an anomaly to a particular show IMO. It's a new cultural phenomena that extends to video games, comics,etc. I'm not saying I want everything to be slut porn or even sexy. But I am saying there's a vicious pushback against ANYTHING that seems the slightest bit titellating these days. Check the Cho J Campbell comic book covers that were withdrawn. There's also this absolute outrage against anything that might seem to put female characters in any sense of peril/danger. What you end up with is boring one dimensional characters.

[Mr. X]

The problem is it's not an anomaly to a particular show IMO. It's a new cultural phenomena that extends to video games, comics,etc. I'm not saying I want everything to be slut porn or even sexy. But I am saying there's a vicious pushback against ANYTHING that seems the slightest bit titellating these days. Check the Cho J Campbell comic book covers that were withdrawn. There's also this absolute outrage against anything that might seem to put female characters in any sense of peril/danger. What you end up with is boring one dimensional characters.

when I worked for Microsoft around 2007-2008 era we had our company wide meeting for games division. This was the first year xbox had made a profit. The talk was about getting rid of "angry young men" as a customer base because the people in charge apparently wanted some other types of customers. They were enamored with the Wii sales back then so they wanted that crowd. Of course it was "angry young men" who put xbox on the map. But it wasn't just "lets invite new markets". It was "lets alienate our customer base so the other customer bases will buy our products cause we really hate our customer base". I think it really bothered them that these "angry young men" were their bread and butter.

I personally don't see these changes as arbitrary choice offerings ie add more salad and vegetables to the buffet table. Its more of an effort to push ribs and steak off the table altogether. There is a distinct hostility, not just arbitrary choice expansion. The visceral and angry feedback exhibited toward my post is a good example. Some underlying anger and hostility and in my line of work I see that A LOT. In fact I've seen people lose their jobs for not going along with this drum beating. Whole product lines destroyed.

as for boring characters that pretty much sums up what you see now like with Marvel's line up like Avengers animated. Black Widow is completely boring. Because she cannot be in peril nor sexualized nor shown to be flawed she is almost always not part of the plot or on the side line or jumps in occasionally to throw a kick. To avoid complaint she is made basically a nothing. My guess is that's why there is no Black widow action figure. No end to complaints. No matter what someone does there will be complaints. This is in complete contrast to the first Marvel Avengers series where Mockingbird, Black Widow etc got tied up, wrestled down by guys, Ms. marvel OTS carried and KOed etc.

I personally kind of welcome this prudish sterility. Vast audience of hetero males out there whom everyday are more and more and more disenfranchised and I am more than happy to deliver on their sexual fantasies.

[JennyFromTheBlock]

So yeah I was just wondering about her titties. What the hell is up with peeps these days?

[shevek]

I agree with rizoboy. And no, I don't think it'd be instructive for you to put me in your "ignore" box.

There is a neo-puritanism sweeping Western society and believe it or not, it almost exactly mirrors the "Red Green Brown" tacit political alliance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red%E2%80 ... n_alliance Again, please note that this not an *actual* alliance (i.e. these three groups - Ultraleft, Islamist, and Ultranationalist [in which I'd include ultrareligious fundamentalist] do not all sit down at an actual table, shake hands and agree to work together) but a *tacit* one. And this is what I've noticed: just like these three groups all agree to hate America (that is, the Ultranationalists of *other* countries) and to hate Jews/Israel, they also agree to hate capitalism and to hate pornography (two things that Jews and Americans coincidentally seem to have a big part in, and before you accuse me of anything, I'm American and Jewish, and generally proud of both without being jingoistic about either).

So all three of these factions have anti-smut puritanical streaks. In the West, the one with the biggest current influence in pop culture by far is the Academic Ultra-Left because it also has a clear reach into the entertainment world. A lot of ultra-progressive types graduate from college where they're inculcuated with these biases, and then they bring them to the workplace, just like Mr. X said - to the director and producer's chair, to the editor's office of a comicbook company or a book publisher, and increasingly (which was part of the reason Gamergate happened) to the office of the videogame company.

That is one of the big reason I helped to start the Comics subforum. Just like this forum is established to direct people to film productions that involve sexiness and peril (SHIP elements), so I wanted to show that despite the neo-puritanical tendencies of the current entertainment industry trendsetters, there are niches here and there which still allow the SHIP elements to emerge and be expressed in comics. The more of those comics you buy, the more get produced.

Again, I say this as second-feminist who believes in full equality (but not overcompensatory "equity" or "white guilt" or enforcing the "progressive stack" of oppression, etc.) for women and minority groups, and I'm voting for Hillary.

Also, the tight suit belonged to Indigo (the amazing looking Laura Vandervoort, who played the undeniably hot Supergirl in Smallville), not "Brainiac".
It is not your imagination - the women in Smallville were simply hotter looking. For example, the actress playing Lois Lane, Erica Durance, was off the charts hot, as were the actresses who played Maxima and Angel of Vengeance, and I could go on and on. That was the tail end of the '90s bad-girl era.

Somewhere around 2010 or later, a politically correct switch flipped on. Sure, Benoist is a goddess, but her sexiness is tamped-down compared to the 90s. Same thing with most of the heroines in Arrow, Legends and Flash (however, this was not the case in Powers at all! Brian Michael Bendis seemed to have input there). Women in costumes today in the 2010s do generally have their sexiness de-emphasized in favor of full-body coverage and boring dark jackets. Sure, they still look beautiful, but we have to "imagine" a lot more how hot they are - like the Western equivalent of a burqa. There is no question about this. There are always exceptions but as a general rule I'm sure I'm right.

I think one of the last mainstream comics to squeak through before this drastic puritanism fell over the industry is the Power Girl- Power Trip tpb, which was why it was one of the first I reviewed. It is obviously meant to be a sexy comic book, something which a respected female artist (Amanda Conner) must be OK with because she drew it!! Yet you can find hundreds of Youtube comments (and don't get me started on Tumblr) complaining about how the comic book was too overly sexy with too much cheesecake and "why does Power Girl's boob window exist?" The neo-puritanist types just could not leave it alone. I have to give major props to artist Mahmoud Asrar (who did such a good job with, for example, drawing characters like Scrap, Slinghost, Synergy and Firebirds so sexily in Dynamo 5) for returning Power Girl, however briefly, to her boob window costume in 2013, but then by 2015 the window finally "closes".

[rizoboy]

There's certainly an element of marketing to a broader youthful demographic but it does not explain away the viciousness that was met for example with the Cho and Campbell covers, to name but a very few.

I'm an Arab myself and I agree with Shevek. There's an unwitting collusion between puritanical tendencies on both Islamic right and liberal left. I'd go a step further: there's a straight up collusion between Islamic right and liberal left when it comes to the policing of "islamophobia". (I'm an atheist and atheists in this region are persecuted to the highest level)

Anyway I don't want to delve too much into politics but getting back to the issue at hand. Shevek, you're absolutely right when it comes to academia. For a few decades now academia has produced a horde of puratnicla "liberal" orthodox feminist agenda that has seeped into all facets of entertainment culture. We're starting to feel the brunt of it now. There's the obvious backlash to it too now, and sometimes it gets really ugly and sexist and mysoginistic. I hope cooler heads prevail in all this. I just want a balance, that's all. But like the current policy Ali climate, I don't see it coming soon.

[Mr. X]

shevek great post. I'm not sure about some alliance since its not an area I am familiar with but other items I agree with. One of the problems is this kind of puritanism attracts bullies, people who hijack real causes to use as a fake cause to bully someone. The term I have seen is "fealot" - fake zealot. I see almost all comic book, movie, game complaints as fealots just using a cause to grind on someone. Like when an environmentalist justifies his abuse of someone with "I'm saving the planet".

And yes getting into those producer, marketing, director roles is called entryism and its a serious problem since its effectively dry rot.

In fact I am expecting entryism to hit this board and little by little any post that is considered "offensive" will be yelled down until the original members slowly leave. Calling board members perverts and sick for example. Getting all aghast and clutching pearls at the mere hint someone likes something outside the PC norm then BAM the "squad" piles in and grinds away.

[Femina]

Well there's no denying that the 'sex sells' mato isn't always correct. Probably the BIGGEST reason a WW movie never got made BEFORE worrying about all the political stuff was an issue was because a bunch of people did the math and decided they were more likely to get less viewership for showing off Wonder Woman's legs than they were likely to get viewers for showing off wonder woman's legs (This bounces into OTHER aspects as to why it wouldn't have worked being that producers of the era were even LESS refined than today and questions like 'can we show WW's legs' was really the only consideration going through their heads and not more pressing matters like 'do we have a script' and 'do we make her an amazon still? Wouldn't it be COOLER if she was in high school!) Now that they can feel safish to avoid the whole issue altogether and put her in a skirt, we're getting an actual movie.

Sex DOES sell... to a point, and then it stops selling. The state of our superheroine adult fetish video industry should be a pretty big indicator of this. Straight Porn tends to sell a bit better but really, porn doesn't market as well as regular television, and it NEVER has, not even when nobody cared who it offended.

Part of this IS that America is deathly afraid of sex for some reason. Violence of any measure is perfectly okay judging by that clusterfuck of a Walking Dead episode but any nudity whatsoever and America freaks the fuck out. I'm certainly not arguing that America isn't TOO worried about sex... because it is. I'm not advocating reading fifty shades of grey to your children or anything (I saw a picture once of a baby wearing a 50SoG baby outfit her mommy got her and wanted to just slap the woman) but there comes a point where it goes beyond rational restraint and enters irrational terror. There's a reason 'mainstream' is clean, it's for the children who don't need to have the issue of sex confronting them in a million confusing ways before they can work it all out for themselves, but it's still important to advertise that, you know, it's OKAY to like sex and to feel comfortable with this aspect of nature that America has long since abandoned conceptually.

That being said, for the most part, I figure sex is still SELLING about as well as it ever would or could. There really is only one Amsterdam, and I have to figure there would be a lot more Amsterdam's if there was REALLY a big enough market for it because nothing sells better than SELLING THINGS.

[4havokk]

Really cant wait for somebody to come up with a Game of Thrones type Superhero/superheroine series on Showtime or HBO. Now that would be something for those of us who would like something a tad bit more adult and politically incorrect (not porn) in its story telling. The best thing about Game of thrones is -Anyone can be the winner or loser, no one is ever 'safe'. - The CW and networks like that are family focused so how can one expect any real hardship, danger, peril or costuming from them?

[Femina]

I'd have to open a big can of 'meh' on that. DC is going about as 'dark' as they dare and it's already annoying. Superhero fiction didn't used to be about nitty gritty details and why the world sucks. It's bright colors, larger than life characters and optimism that made them famous in the first place.

This leads me to reason number 2 of why America is afraid of sex (and I guess in some ways, anything marginally likely to cause a ruckus) We're so goddamn pessimistic! We WANT life to suck. Growing demand for 'dark gritty realism' in our escapist fantasy is just a visible symptom of this.

[Ezekiel]

In season two her boobs have gotten so much smaller that it is noticeable. Did she get a breast reduction or is her physical training for the show shrinking her assets?

She has never been volumptuous, but seriously the Super-S is looking a little defeated in Season Two.

Well, it's obvious that the government shrank her boobs. That's Phase One. In Phase Two, they will activate the "homo-gun" which will turn all white men gay, this being their due payment for centuries of privilege.

[shevek]

Mr X, the Red-Green-Brown alliance is a political theory written by a French political theorist. As Rizoboy explained, some parts of it are just coincidental philosophically (like for example, any equivalent prudery by the far left and far Christian right, who would never talk with each other)
and others are outright collusion, like the kid gloves on radical Islam.

Femina - we need way more of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-positive_feminism

4Havokk - there are actually plenty of anti-heroine comics that could be translated into a network show that has as much sex and violence as Game of Thrones. I've written about some of them in the Comics subforum. How about a show where a sexy as hell female killer produces a high body count: Lady Killer, Jennifer Blood, The Discipline, Fatale, or maybe a remake of Painkiller Jane. Avatar Comics like The Ravening and Hellina. How about a Witchblade remake.

Hey Rizoboy, how about an approximation of a superheroine transformation in an Arabic pop video. I would assume Myriam Fares is Christian since she's Lebanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XutYffQy4Ag

[rizoboy]

She's deadly hot haha. Haven't seen that video. Ironically pop entertainment in Arabic culture is uber sexualized as an adverse reaction to the puritan nature of the culture here.

[tallyho]

I noticed in the first series where we had the big reveal of the S on her chest for the first time she pulls her shirt/blouse open and then rather than stick her chest out, like Chris Reeve et al, as the whole declaration of 'here I am , Supergirl is here to save the day' gesture it was very downplayed and she almost hunches over a bit to de-emphasise its spread across her boobs.

[JohnFeer]

Breasts aren't everything and even Helen Slater publicly admitted on the "Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" that she wore a padded bra as Supergirl...




JF

[tallyho]

Breasts aren't everything and even Helen Slater publicly admitted on the "Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" that she wore a padded bra as Supergirl...




JF

I agree I just thought it was noticeable how they downplayed them. Having seen Mel topless in other shows its pretty clear there's not much there but I love her as SG anyways

[Femina]

I suppose that I ought to contribute that I believe that a big part of the repression of sexual themes in America I alluded to above, are regardless, are our own fault as a species and probably IS particularly more enforced at least from an ACTIVE position more from the female perspective than the male, just not necessarily for the reasons most would consider (FEMINISTS JUST HATE MEN!!!! No, it's not that simple.) We STILL live in a world where a woman is often called a slut for participating in sexual intercourse OF ANY KIND that isn't marital... yet decried as a tease or holdout if she isn't amicable to particularly aggressive wolf whistles or drunken party sex just for wearing the clothing she likes to wear or dating her high school BF. This creates a sort of 'lose/lose' situation whereby completely ignoring the situation altogether or even screaming out our frustration so loudly as to drown out all responses can become comparatively preferable. While, yes, it is easier than ever before for a woman to make an argument and 'paint the devil black' so to speak concerning say... the guy on the bus who wolf whistles her direction, I can still easily see why some woman are more comfortable as being labeled a slut, for instance, by the angry twitter lobiests who simply don't like the things she says, than for sexual proclivities that make her worry internally that she might actually be the literal definition of a slut as it has come to be known culturally. The term itself is particularly repressive and just another of the little contributing factors to American prudism. We should ALL stop using it period.

Worse is that I see this kind of shaming all the time, and NOT just by the stereotypical misogynist mans man painted in the presses either. My own sister will watch something like 'Gotham' where Gordan can go around and screw half the cast at liberty and it's all hunky dory, but the instant one of the female cast shows the slightest sexual freedom it becomes 'ugh, what a slut. You can do better Gordon!' It's ingrained in society, built upon by centuries of behavioral patters both male AND female that have simply finally struck a chord with a larger protesting base than it ever has before. It isn't really that we are more OR less sexually repressed than before, it's just that we are ALL more free to TALK about it now, not just one end of the argument, which creates friction.

Therefore, as stated above, complete sterility of the culture and atmosphere can become less of a headache for a LOT of women, sometimes vocally, and sometimes obviously a woman can choose to use that culture as a means to lash out at a demographic they hate, but such is little different than standard racism/sexism/prejudice and like as not simply does NOT represent the sort of conspiratorial 'SJW feminazi' by which it seems certain segments of the populace believe ALL THE WORLD of women and 'SJW's' to be somehow in cahoots with which is also of course, just ridiculous. Melissa's breasts, for instance (to at least tie this into the topic at hand) absolutely CAN be as simple as Melissa not wanting to wear a padded bra anymore and the producers rightly respecting her right as a human being to do so, or that she simply has been working out to keep fit for the part, and does not, does NOT at all have to be some grand SJW conspiracy. It seems to me that it has to be exhausting to be somebody who is violently opposed to SJW culture on literally EVERY front, because looking for the 'conspiracy' in EVERYTHING related to the female gender, or African American culture, or anything even vaguely politically prejudicial has to just take up so much more energy than its worth as to be sufficiently pitiable.

Anyway, alot of the push back from frustrated women toward a traditionally less repressed male populace (Who've been free to express their sexuality for much much much longer historically) lead some men to feeling singled out by those women as being decried the absolute cause (which in fairness SOME women DO.) When the truth is that while it is a cause/effect relationship just like anything else, the cause is ALL of us, man and woman. 'Fixing' the issue is probably impossible with our own generation, I mean the angry twiterists who want nothing more than an outlet to call a woman a whore aren't going anywhere, and neither are the women who are beyond their threshold for sexual openness and want nothing less than totalitarian sterility, and as those are the visual outlets of the particularly vocal it paints an altogether dim perspective of the world for all of us that isn't necessarily as true as it APPEARS to be. It COULD, however, be helped for future generations if we all just did better at teaching our kids to be more open and respectful both with themselves AND with others in ALL aspects of life.

[theScribbler]

https://youtu.be/1-fvNlsSlTM?t=23s

Yep, Berlanti shows need more breasts

[Heroine Addict]

In fact there ain't a whole lotta hetero ANYTHING going on with that show. So apparently if one group comes out of a closet another group has to go into a closet. Any bets Superman will turn out to be gay?

Are you watching a different show? Maggie Sawyer is the only LGBT character they've ever had. Although it seems Alex is becoming bi-curious.

Which will be fine and dandy with a lot of people here. In case you haven't noticed from all the girl/girl porn advertised on the forum, many of us enjoy seeing hot girls get together.

I wouldn't be at all concerned if they had two male characters in a relationship either. Would you? Holy crap, Torchwood was showing pretty graphic B/G, B/B and G/G sex scenes a decade ago. I managed to enjoy the show without shouting "Ew, gays!" whenever Jack and Ianto started shagging. Nor did I resent the gay scenes for occupying straight airtime.

You seem to be posting a lot of angry outbursts about gays at the moment. As if they're getting a sweet, sweet deal at your expense.

[tallyho]

Lets lose the word 'angry' shall we - they are just comments about how hetero views are handled relative to LGBT, and its just an opinion.
I would suggest a 'fed up' opinion, rather than an angry one.
Remember the discussion is about boobies, not each other

[Mr. X]

[quote="Heroine Addict"
You seem to be posting a lot of angry outbursts about gays at the moment. As if they're getting a sweet, sweet deal at your expense.[/quote]

You just strawman all over the place, misread what people write then look for an argument. And you don't actually debate the issue you attack the debater.

[Mr. X]

Yep, Berlanti shows need more breasts

wait so ONE scene = show full of breasts? Really?

[Heroine Addict]

You just strawman all over the place, misread what people write then look for an argument. And you don't actually debate the issue you attack the debater.

I'm not sure you actually know the meaning of straw man argument. You use it, even when the person you're accusing has quoted a blatant example of the exact behaviour being described.

How can the below statement be interpreted as anything other than you being... fed up because you believe gays are getting a better deal?

In fact there ain't a whole lotta hetero ANYTHING going on with that show. So apparently if one group comes out of a closet another group has to go into a closet. Any bets Superman will turn out to be gay?