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Vibrators seem like a great toy for a female super villain to use to sexually dominate a heroine. However, I don't see the point for a male to use it against a female. Speaking from a male's point of view, I would think about using my own antimony instead of ever using a vibrator. It just doesn't make sense when I have the natural tool to use. What guy has a vibrator at all times to use on a woman in any circumstance? Time used on the vibrator could be used to add more hardcore penetration. This is just my two cents.

I would love to hear from peers and producers as why male villains use vibrators.

Maybe not all models are into having a random guy's bulge rub against their crotch?

Ezekiel wrote:Maybe not all models are into having a random guy's bulge rub against their crotch?

this is pretty much it right there.
many models are ok with girl/girl content but are not cool with a random guy taking out bios junk and rubbing it all over her.
Also even if the model is ok with it it would immediately increase the models pay rate.

Also it would require testing to be done which is an added expense.

so pretty much its because most models don't want random dudes cock on/in them and its more expensive.

depending on the girl the cost could be by several hundred dollars an hour.

Really struggling not to give a stupid answer to a stupid question .....

Speaking from a purely fictional standpoint. Maybe the male - who, judging by Revenger's post, considers himself the ultimate alpha, doesn't want to stick his man meat inside the heroine as she's just not worthy

Also, as he considers the heroine a whore, maybe he's worried about STDs?

Vibrators are tools for foreplay for a guy - there's plenty of uses......

Aside from the real world limits/rates set by actresses, a vibrator can be used to make the heroine cum while she's still in her full costume. Regardless of whether the costume comes off after the orgasm, the mere act of soaking the uniform in juices defiles it as a symbol of virtue.

Heroine Addict wrote:A vibrator can be used to make the heroine cum while she's still in her full costume. Regardless of whether the costume comes off after the orgasm, the mere act of soaking the uniform in juices defiles it as a symbol of virtue.

WOW, the way you explained that made me tingle.

I prefer for the costume to be partially removed in vids but not all. Good balance of seeing the mighty heroine exposed with her intimate parts out for our viewing pleasure as well as her humiliation and still keeping it different from it becoming just a normal fully naked girl with the costume off in a way. Eh, idk if i explained that right.

I have to say that after seeing some clips it's awesome so and it makes the superheroine weaker which is also cool!

Revenger wrote:I would love to hear from peers and producers as why male villains use vibrators.

In addition to the most important point already mentioned:

KnightsofGotham.com wrote:...its because most models don't want random dudes cock on/in them and its more expensive.

...The hitachi-styled vibrator is also a great and humiliating weapon to use on any captive heroine. The reason is that while everyone is different and gets aroused differently, the hitachi is like the great equalizer. It's one of the closest things to a guaranteed orgasm you can get. Granted the heroine is not in a relaxed state while being held captive, but if the villain is persistent enough, a forced orgasm may be unavoidable. As a "villain" myself I find this to be a fun way of "torturing" the heroine. I have used this on partners IRL and still do and it's just a fun way to shake things up (literally and figuratively).

There are several layers of issues here, the first real world layer being the limitations of the actors in the scene. Sure you may get what you want from adult actresses and actors but that may not result in a great heroine peril film.

The second reality (of reality) is that the amazing "O" you are trying to create isn't always easy to get, and doesn't magically happen simultaneously for both parties. For some, vibe assistance is most certainly required! Having been in the BDSM scene for a while, I can say that seeing the pleasure my play partner gets from vibe play is very satisfying for me,

The reality of the genre is that for many viewers, the idea of needing 'technology' to overcome the heroine is practically a given. The idea (though overused) of de-powering the heroine by forced orgasms and therefore needing a weapon/gadget is almost universally heart rate elevating for all

The side benefits of this are that for those who have lines and limits the stigma of the R word can be reduced, the viewer can live with the heroine taking secret pleasure from what has happened despite the consequences.

From a girls point of view.....once you have the magic wand used on ya...you always want it

I initially invested in an eroscillator which is a pretty good toy but it is more effective on a nude captive. "Wands" in general seem much more effective and especially on someone who is clothed, I particularly prefer the forced O in costume/spandex/latex etc.

My main problem was getting a decent Wand, everyone says 'Hitachi' but European voltages aren't right and there are tonnes of knock-offs,luckily Lovehoney do a good version in Europe. My best accessory for it so far by far is the 'forced orgasm belt', very satisfying bringing my spandex clad partner to her orgasm "hands free" while I could get on with the whip! LOL

It's a work around for the reasons stated above, the model doesn't want to do penetration with a male villain. I've never liked it simply because it didn't make much sense to me why a villain would rather vibe the heroine rather than pork her himself. One of the limitations of our genre and one that doesn't entice me to buy since the fantasy is ruined at that point.

There are clips out there with real penetration, but then you've got the audience that feels real sex ruins the superheroine fantasy and turns it into a porn flick, so I'd guess there are different products for different tastes.

Ezekiel wrote:Maybe not all models are into having a random guy's bulge rub against their crotch?

Pretty much it. Also the producer may not want to do intercourse scenes in his movie OR the producer/actor may no have the "junk" size required to make the scene interesting. But more than likely the model doesn't want to have some stranger mount her.

KnightsofGotham.com wrote:

Ezekiel wrote:Maybe not all models are into having a random guy's bulge rub against their crotch?

this is pretty much it right there.
many models are ok with girl/girl content but are not cool with a random guy taking out bios junk and rubbing it all over her.
Also even if the model is ok with it it would immediately increase the models pay rate.

Also it would require testing to be done which is an added expense.

so pretty much its because most models don't want random dudes cock on/in them and its more expensive.

depending on the girl the cost could be by several hundred dollars an hour.

I respect everyone's limits on what they are willing to do on and off camera. I'm not expecting Kendra James to ever do a b/g scene. That's not realistic or fair to judge her on. However, companies can easily find girls, who are okay with a guy penetrating them. Primal Fetish has no problems finding these girls, but they still use a vibrator in b/g scenes.

Revenger wrote:

KnightsofGotham.com wrote:Primal Fetish has no problems finding these girls, but they still use a vibrator in b/g scenes.

The simple explanation-perhaps people, like me, just want to see it used on the costume?

Or like Heroine Addict put it, "A vibrator can be used to make the heroine cum while she's still in her full costume. Regardless of whether the costume comes off after the orgasm, the mere act of soaking the uniform in juices defiles it as a symbol of virtue."

Also depends on what the guy was hired for. Male talent hired as a goon and not required or asked to do sexual content-- hitachi's and vibrators are ok with that type of casting.

The superheroines in their pantyhosed feet beeing subdued by supervillainesses also in their pantyhosed feet. The First one of something like that I fell in love with was The Return of Harem Girl followed by The Arrival of Electra Star.

Revenger wrote:Vibrators seem like a great toy for a female super villain to use to sexually dominate a heroine. However, I don't see the point for a male to use it against a female. Speaking from a male's point of view, I would think about using my own antimony instead of ever using a vibrator. It just doesn't make sense when I have the natural tool to use. What guy has a vibrator at all times to use on a woman in any circumstance? Time used on the vibrator could be used to add more hardcore penetration. This is just my two cents.

I would love to hear from peers and producers as why male villains use vibrators.

I love to check that out so very much indeed. The Return of Harem Girl and The Arrival of Electra Star happen to have the supervillainesses rubbing the vibrator on the pantyhosed crotch of suerheroines such as Wonder Christina/Shining Star,Wonder Star,Knightwoman,Robyn,Argongirl,Blue Angels Christina Carter and Jade Indica,and a few others out there.

Heroine Addict wrote:Aside from the real world limits/rates set by actresses, a vibrator can be used to make the heroine cum while she's still in her full costume. Regardless of whether the costume comes off after the orgasm, the mere act of soaking the uniform in juices defiles it as a symbol of virtue.

Someone else understands!! This is why I always love when a heroine is made to cum in her costume, or just having it pulled aside and taken and then allowing the crotch to cover her again soaking up all her juices, basically taking her once proud costume and defiling it that way. So much better than when she's stripped naked and taken.

I prefer the heroine to stay in costume, also - just because I think sexy clothes are sexier than nudity. It's like the difference between ice cream and ice cream with sprinkles. Sprinkles are just better.

I wonder what the percentage is of those who prefer PG to R to XXX rated is... (R being mostly clothed with high sexual situations/peril)...

RedMountain wrote:

Heroine Addict wrote:Aside from the real world limits/rates set by actresses, a vibrator can be used to make the heroine cum while she's still in her full costume. Regardless of whether the costume comes off after the orgasm, the mere act of soaking the uniform in juices defiles it as a symbol of virtue.

Someone else understands!! This is why I always love when a heroine is made to cum in her costume, or just having it pulled aside and taken and then allowing the crotch to cover her again soaking up all her juices, basically taking her once proud costume and defiling it that way. So much better than when she's stripped naked and taken.

I'm also into this result. But I also wonder why they "torture" - humiliating for the character as it is - is confined to "pleasuring" her. For the sake of a little sideways thinking we could have it apparently electrocuting her giving pain as well as stimulation. That would tie in with the taking away her power or punishing her for her arousal. I realise that we have many producers with tight budgets, but it is a pretty simple effect to create as most of it is suggested by the actress' reactions.

Revenger wrote:

KnightsofGotham.com wrote:

Ezekiel wrote:Maybe not all models are into having a random guy's bulge rub against their crotch?

this is pretty much it right there.
many models are ok with girl/girl content but are not cool with a random guy taking out bios junk and rubbing it all over her.
Also even if the model is ok with it it would immediately increase the models pay rate.

Also it would require testing to be done which is an added expense.

so pretty much its because most models don't want random dudes cock on/in them and its more expensive.

depending on the girl the cost could be by several hundred dollars an hour.

I respect everyone's limits on what they are willing to do on and off camera. I'm not expecting Kendra James to ever do a b/g scene. That's not realistic or fair to judge her on. However, companies can easily find girls, who are okay with a guy penetrating them. Primal Fetish has no problems finding these girls, but they still use a vibrator in b/g scenes.

I wouldn't say it is easy to find girls to do XXX. The company had to move to another city to have ready access to New/Talented models for XXX. But as far as doing the Vibe and full bg

1 - Costume on, especially if it is a unitard
2 - View. You can't get the same angles on a model with a guy all up on them
3 - Breaking the girl down before she gets "taken"
4 - Reality, if the male talent Fks the girl "past her limits", she will actually be hurt, may not be able to shoot for a few days, and she probably won't want to shoot with us again, and her agent is going to want to have a REALLY unpleasant conversation with us. Vibrator "beyond her limit" - She will be kind of sensitive for a day. Of course she can totally exaggerate what she is feeling, but the more intense it really is the better.

We have other reasons but they are really based on our "style"

I've never been too fascinated by vibrators, don't know why.
It is often used in videos and generally very well received, but personally, it has never been the center of my attention.
I mean, it's not a turn off either, but I feel it is so generic, robotic.

For B/G scenes, I don't even want to see a penis either.
Since we are in a fantasy world with magical superheroines, the male villain could be a beautiful and athletic man wearing a magical panty that contain the essence of his power and rub it sensually against the clothes of the heroines, to weaken her and sexually arouse her.
Or cover himself with a "kamasutra oil" to awaken her forbidden desires through massage.

There are plenty of options so the actress can avoid penetration and plays her role of defeated heroine in a safer way.

Same for the G/G scenes, vibrator are often used, I wish the sex scenes between girls could be like in the seduction scenes from "Girlfriend Films Studios".

SdaisyS wrote: Since we are in a fantasy world with magical superheroines, the male villain could be a beautiful and athletic man wearing a magical panty that contain the essence of his power and rub it sensually against the clothes of the heroines, to weaken her and sexually arouse her.
Or cover himself with a "kamasutra oil" to awaken her forbidden desires through massage.

the sound you are hearing currently is the sound of dozens of producers with pencils writing this down. I could continue but I have to grab my pencil and write this down....
comic soon... Batgirl and the mysterious Kamasutra salesman

SdaisyS wrote:I've never been too fascinated by vibrators, don't know why.
It is often used in videos and generally very well received, but personally, it has never been the center of my attention.
I mean, it's not a turn off either, but I feel it is so generic, robotic.

For B/G scenes, I don't even want to see a penis either.
Since we are in a fantasy world with magical superheroines, the male villain could be a beautiful and athletic man wearing a magical panty that contain the essence of his power and rub it sensually against the clothes of the heroines, to weaken her and sexually arouse her.
Or cover himself with a "kamasutra oil" to awaken her forbidden desires through massage.

There are plenty of options so the actress can avoid penetration and plays her role of defeated heroine in a safer way.

Same for the G/G scenes, vibrator are often used, I wish the sex scenes between girls could be like in the seduction scenes from "Girlfriend Films Studios".

Well, we have done an oil thing a few times so far, with g/g. As far as with bg? I suppose.. and now we have two naked people covered in oil...no costumes, just a sensual oil scene...hmmm well we have like 9 of those on our sensual tease store so I don't know if a superheroine intro would pull in this fan base. If so, please let us know.