Revolutionary War 101: No contracts? No representation? No Government!Mr. X wrote:All social contracts are logical fallacies. You cannot form a contract with someone against their will or knowledge. And there is no such thing as a special contract, or its not a contract.lionbadger wrote:I love this sort of thing from a philosophical jurisprudential point of view. Did you agree to the system of government? Weren't you just born into it, forced to accept it for 18 (?) years without a say and then told that this is the game and you can play or not but you da,n sure don't get a choice in making the rules ? In this how is "you have to accept these things because of an accident of geography" a choice or inherently fair? (Obviously the real world does actually require some compromise with theory but from an academic theory point of view it's an interesting dichotomy)Femina wrote:Technically, if you didn't vote for Trump (and voted for someone else) You aren't obligated to support him because you did not agree to let him lead you. You've only agreed to the system of government that allowed it to happen. So we are allowed to respect the office and NOT the man.
Seriously though, it is an interesting point of discussion. Because the truth is, there isn't actually 'freedom' in any government, because the laws of all government's demand they be followed lest anarchy reign. The more government the less freedom, the more freedom the more chaos, the more government the less chaos. The balance is impossible to maintain for very long before it swirls to far to one side it seems. America IS as free as they come, and really you're right, not a single person alive 'agreed' to it verbally or in writing like they did during the Revolutionary War (and when you think about it, even then it's only the 'founding father's' that SIGNED, and it wouldn't be until the Constitution was drafted and voted on that there was a larger agreement.) WE were just born here, and the law demands that we comply.
I'm not sure there's a decent 'point' here. Most of us are damn lucky to have been born here and not say... Isis country, but that doesn't mean it isn't interesting reflection. I DID vote this year though, and for the first time, does that theoretically count as 'validation?' Dunno, food for thought I guess.